I think that before adding any new extensions or changing the
namespace in such a major way, a VOTE should be conducted, from the
current registrant contact of all .au domain name holders.
Only then can a true representation of what CURRENT .au holders want.
AuDA sends out emails whenever a domain name is registered, it should
be within its scope to at least conduct a survey annually or biannually.
Generally, the old saying 'Dont fix it if it aint broken' comes to mind.
.au is functioning, there's no MAJOR problems at the moment, so why
change it if there are no problems to be solved or advantages (beside
a select few cashing in, aka corruption slash CONFLICT OF INTERESTS).
If there ARE advantages to be had, sure, but if theres no problems to
be solved or advantages to be gained, why is this discussion even on
the table?
Have we all been that bored in the last few years that we are making
up ways to change .au just so we have something to do in our mundane
boring jobs?
-Sean
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Of *Ron Stark
*Sent:* Sunday, 1 July 2007 12:26 PM
*To:* '.au DNS Discussion List'
*Subject:* Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains
So use "IT" as an example. Or "trades", "business" or any of a
multitude of others that aren't specifically covered by legislation.
My point is that under the current rules, a close or substantial
connection is sufficient qualification. I don't need a trademark, and
I don't need a registered business - an ABN will suffice. Is it
perhaps suggested that each different 2LD has a unique set of rules
and policies? Or is it proposed to modify the existing rules?
I can see it all now. The clarity of www.it.trades.au
<http://www.it.trades.au> and www.trades.it.au
<http://www.trades.it.au>, to go along with www.ittrades.com.au
<http://www.ittrades.com.au> and www.tradesit.com.au
<http://www.tradesit.com.au>.
The notion that the term "bank" is covered by legislation is farcical,
given that bank.com.au is registered to Internet Product Sales and
Services Pty Ltd, banks.com.au is owned by Aussie Destinations (1) Pty
Ltd, both of which resolve to the same website.
The argument was put forward that coke, for example, would prefer to
use coke.com. Using the argument that the registrant must be
operating within the industry, then a bank who wants to increase their
visibility in search engines could rightfully register coke.bank.au, a
plumber coke.plumbers.au, whilst Coca Cola would be denied that right.
Wow! There's a great brand enhancement strategy.
I fail to see how simply contriving additional 2LDs resolves minor
problems that now exist. Instead, I can see it introducing more
problems of greater magnitude and complexity.
Ron Stark
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*Sent:* Saturday, 30 June 2007 21:23
*To:* .au DNS Discussion List
*Subject:* Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com domains
A self managed super fund is not a bank, I would have thought that
was pretty obvious.
In a similar manner a podcast does not make you a radio station
(.radio.au), uploading youtube viedos does not make you a tv
station (.tv.au), etc.
If you're not legitimately in the industry, you wouldn't be
eligible to register the domain name, just like you can't register
.gov.au or .edu.au
Ron Stark wrote:
OK. So IBM, BP, Price Waterhouse Coopers and little old me run a
credit union for my staff. Woo Hoo - I can register
snapsite.bank, then.
Josh (sorry Josh :-)) possibly runs his own self-managed super
fund. So he gets josh.bank.au. Real clear and easy to administer
...........
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*Subject:* Re: [DNS] Australia registers more .au than .com
domains
I totally agree with Edwin.
Further to this, I have always said that with industry
specific domains, you must be within that industry. Therefore
only a bank could register a domain using the .bank.au extension.
This already applies for domain extensions such as .gov.au and
.edu.au, so this concept is nothing new. In effect, the
.gov.au and .edu.au domains are examples of industry specific
domains. Do you see any untoward activities in these
namespaces? Any phising? Any cyber-squatting or domain
speculation?
As for conflicts, there's would be far fewer as it is limited
to each industry. For example only plumbers of the name Joe
would be interested in joes.plumbing.au whereas every Joe from
every industry would be interested in joe.com.au.
Edwin Groothuis wrote:
On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 04:52:13PM +1000, Ron Stark wrote:
I can think of a mere handful of bank.au domains - anz, cba,
commonwealth,
qld, westpac, boq, queensland, suncorp, bendigo, city, citi and so
on. Then
Plus hundreds of credit unions?
come the grey areas over which disputes would inevitably arise from
each of
the competing "legitimate" registrants: lending.bank.au,
finance.bank.au,
cheap.bank.au, friendly.bank.au, local.bank.au, regional.bank.au,
credit.bank.au, community.bank.au, farmers.bank.au, your.bank.au,
online.bank.au, internet.bank.au and a whole lot of others.
The policy of the bank.com.au, just like the policy of the .museum
and .areo, will probably prevent you (and everybody else) from
regestrering them.
But wait ... there's more! I do newsletters for a certain bank as
part of
my business. I then qualify to register newsletter.bank.au,
because there's
already a close or substantial connection. I also resell domain
names
therefore I qualify for domains.bank.au. Oh - websites, too, which
gives me
These too.
Edwin
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