> > Why do a rogue server? Why not just have the existing root operators
> > deploy v6 transport capable root servers that are official?
> 
> no disagreement there.
> 
> > If you feel that it is too risky to do that on the existing hardware ...
> 
> obviously you missed the entire discussion.  this is not about the usual
> software bugs.  it's about cache poisoning of old servers in v4 space.
> 
> > I would ask you to state a reason (other than possible expense) why
> > having a couple of "clone servers" run and administered by the same
> > folks running the current roots but on the 6bone and accepting
> > requests over v6 transport could cause an operational problem. What is
> > it, exactly, that we're fearing here?
> 
> this was discussed in dnsop, and is in the dnsop minutes.  it was discussed
> in ngtrans.
> 
> to repeat the presentation:
> 
> ----
> 
> the v6 directorate and the i* would appreciate if today's dnsop meeting
> would add the following to its agenda:
> 
>   o if there actually is a need for to experiment with a separate v6 root,
> 
>   o what is the cache hints and root zone content, and, given that
> 
>   o what are the possiblity vulnerabilities of the general internet, and if
>     there are any
> 
>   o what are the limits/guidelines needed to prudently protect the net?
> 
> an example of a worry is cache poisoning of an antique v4 bind.

        A quick look at the code says that AAAA/A6 records won't
        be cached.  If fact you can use this technique for finger
        printing nameservers.

        Anti-cache poisoning techniques depend upon ownernames not
        type.

        The real worry with BIND 4 is that it does not support TCP
        retries.   So as long a mix of A and A6/AAAA records make
        it into the additional section and we don't increase the
        answer section things should be ok.

        Mark

> 
> ----
> 
> and there are thousands of vulnerable v4 binds still out there.
> 
> randy
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