At 13:15 -0500 1/4/07, Dean Anderson wrote:

address by the machine initiating the query".  This incorrect assertion
is at the very heart of the mistaken uses of 'reverse DNS as security
mechanism'.  The correct answer to "what is supposed to be seen" is
_site_ dependent.  Those who think there is some "universally correct"
answer have no legitimate foundation for that belief. They are really
just trying to impose their _site's_ practices on everyone else in the
belief that if everyone else did what they did, they could use reverse
DNS for security or anti-spam or some such.  The ends, however, cannot
be achieved even if everyone were to adopt their practices. [ignoring
the fact that some sites cannot adopt those practices and have very good
reasons for their different practices.]

I can speak to the motivation of this because I think I was the one that suggested the words.

The motivation had nothing to do with security. Your point is well taken and I agree that there is little value in the reverse map in providing security. (Arguably, some value, not enough to justify the expense certainly.) But the vagueness ot the text is borne from other observed uses of DNS, for example Akamization and what some call "directional DNS". There are folks that purposefully answer differently based on where a query comes from. It can be argued that these folks are violating coherency and they can retort that no, they are abusing dynamic update (with a wink). Whatever, it happens, and we need to recognize reality and not try to argue theory.

The other scenario I had in mind was split-DNS, in which I answer with more detail to my own machines than the Internet. Such as -
Inside: 8.88.888.202.in-addr.arpa PTR amadeus.perl.example.
Outside: 8.88.888.202.in-addr.arpa PTR machine888888.perl.example.

The "outside" isn't always to hide the inside machine's true identity, but this makes transitions inside transparent to the outside. Especially if the inside is using some kind of dynamic update via DHCP and I just don't want to deal with that headache outside my firewall.

I think you are right in discounting the notion of "universally correct" answers. But if so, I would think you would even more agree with the words as stated.
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Edward Lewis                                                +1-571-434-5468
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