In message <[email protected]>, Jim Reid writes:
> On 23 Nov 2012, at 11:17, Tony Finch <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Just query for the SOA at the full RDNS name, and the name server will
> > return the zone apex name and SOA record in the authority section of its
> > reply (or possibly in the answer section though that's unlikely).
> > 
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-andrews-dnsext-soa-discovery
> 
> We have been here before.
> 
> The ENUM name space has comparable properties to ip6.arpa: lots of labels, "i
> rregular" delegation points and sparse population. Some ENUM applications and
>  use cases had a need to find the closest encloser too. So a long time ago, I
>  helped write up something similar for the ENUM WG -- http://tools.ietf.org/h
> tml/draft-ietf-enum-void-02 -- and was told I was a naughty boy. It was appar
> ently a Very Bad Thing to treat data from the Authority Section as an answer 
> from the DNS: resolving servers could do this, but nothing else apparently. I
>  suspect Mark's draft may have been killed because of that too.

No, it just needed some more work so that whether the zeroing of
the -ve TTL on the SOA query was not done unconditionally.  Named
now has a per zone flag to control this.

There is nothing wrong with using the SOA record from the -ve
response.  Named has been doing it for about 15 years in nslookup.
If it is not there it falls back to stripping a label at a time
until it gets the SOA record.

> FWIW there were other religious issues which meant that ENUM draft ended up g
> oing nowhere.
> 
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