Jim and Paul

Since we started this discussion I have got more private emails/IM's  about 
        "how <insert emotion> this <insert person> is"  
than ever before in working on IETF drafts. Thus I want some of the people that 
have strong opinions 
and feelings to clear the air and reach understanding or at least civility. I 
also want to listen to people that have different perspectives/roles. 

Warren and I have requested a time slice in DNSOP to report on what the status 
is and possible ways forward,
such as: 
        a) go ahead with possible minor changes 
        b) modify it to reflect what we think may work  
        c) drop it. 
        d) Propose a different way forward (say PARENT proposal) 
        e) Should we add NS and Glue to the effort ? 
and if should this belongs in DNSOP  or not. 

        Olafur



On Mar 6, 2013, at 10:26 AM, James M Galvin <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm interested in this topic and like Paul am disappointed you're not having 
> during a WG session.
> 
> Scheduling will be difficult if you're looking to have it outside of WG 
> sessions.
> 
> I suggest a doodle poll of some options, maybe all the options that fit your 
> schedule and then we see how it shapes up.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> -- On March 5, 2013 3:10:16 PM -0500 Olafur Gudmundsson <[email protected]> wrote 
> regarding [DNSOP] F2F meeting in Orlando Re: General comments on        
> draft-kumari-ogud-dnsop-cds-01 --
> 
>> I will try to organize a face to face meeting on the topic of moving
>> DNS delegation information in-band (inside DNS)  from child to
>> parent,  at the IETF next week (will send out report after meeting)
>> If you are interested in attending let me know and in general what
>> times are good for you,
>> 
>>      Olafur
>> 
>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Joe Abley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > On 2013-03-05, at 15:01, Paul Wouters <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 5 Mar 2013, Joe Abley wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I presume this has already come up, and there are good reasons
>> >>> why the apparent lexical flexibility in what I'm about to suggest
>> >>> are swamped by a sea of vicious snakes, but if the goal is
>> >>> "transmitting general information to the parent which in some
>> >>> cases they might care about" why not think about a more general
>> >>> RRType of the form
>> >>>
>> >>> ; zone cut
>> >>> example.com. IN SOA ...
>> >>> ;
>> >>> example.com. IN PARENT DS parental-hints.example.com. example.com.
>> >>> example.com. IN PARENT A ns1.example.com. ns1.example.com.
>> >>
>> >> I'm very nervous about such a fundamental zone syntax change. It's
>> >> going to take forever for zone tools to take up on this.
>> >
>> > Every new RR is a zone syntax change.
>> >
>> >> It would be better to use a non-IN class PARENT
>> >>
>> >> example.com. PARENT DS parental-hints.example.com. example.com.
>> >
>> > If the record is not in the same class, then it's not in the same
>> > zone. That route takes us back to Vixie metazones.
>> >
>> >
>> > Joe
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