On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:04 AM Shane Kerr <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Ed,
>>
>> At 2016-02-29 14:34:39 +0000
>> Edward Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I don't think I was clear - this is only about the DNS protocol.  This
>> > document proposes that the DNS protocol behave differently depending on
>> > the data being carried (QNAME) in it's own messages.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > This isn't about processing different values differently, this is about
>> > changing the behavior of the protocol based on environmental factors.
>>
> Ah. So you don't like identifying magic zones (other than in-addr.arpa,
>> ip6.arpa, .example, .local, ...). Fair enough.
>>
>> But AIUI, the proposal is an observation that Fujiwara's
>> NXDOMAIN-from-NSEC proposal can be implemented safely today for the root
>> zone, so we may as well go ahead and do that while considering wider
>> usage.
>>
>
>
> Yup. I believe we should still pursue Fujiwara's document, but that is
> likely to take a significant time, and there are hurdles to overcome. This
> document limits things to a subset where we know things work correctly (and
> seem OK within 4035) - once we have demonstrated that things work OK here,
> it paves the way for more aggressive NSEC.
>
>
Warren,

Can you list the issues you think need addressing in Fujiwara's document
other than saying that zones signed with "Opt-out" there will be gaps where
the technique can be applied, but gaps with opt-out bit set can not be
protected.

Thus I consider your document a distraction, we should push the general
solution not a special case

Olafur
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