Tim/Suzanne -

Please cancel the request for publication until you complete the WGLC for this document.

The last WGLC for the document was October of last year - it failed on 28 October https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/msg21225.html. No WGLC has been made since then.

The consensus referenced in the shepherd's report was meeting consensus - not mailing list consensus AFAICT.  Specifically, I'd like to see if Ed's removed his objections.  I don't have a problem with the WGLC being used to judge consensus - but that's not what happened here.

Later, Mike


On 7/6/2018 9:08 PM, Michael StJohns wrote:
On 7/6/2018 8:13 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote:
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5011-security-considerations-12 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group.

Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5011-security-considerations/

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*sigh*

Point of order:  Did I miss the final WGLC on this after this last version was published?  I can't actually find anything in the DNSOP archives and I don't remember seeing the call.   So I'm suggesting that we've missed a required stage.

With respect to the shepher's writeup:

1) The first reference in the shepherd's write-up  is wrong - its pointing to a whole other set of discussions related to Joe Abley's ideas. 2) The second reference isn't representative of the actual discussion, but only shows the point at which I got worn down. Please include a reference that actually shows the attempts to try and resolve my issues. 3) This document should not be a Proposed Standard as it documents nothing implementable (that is nothing implementable in a computer), but is operational guidance for the publication process. 4) Is it usual for the WG chair to write the shepherd's report? Specifically, it seems a conflict of interest for items (3) -(6). 5) The technical summary is misleading.  This is not an update to 5011, but guidance to the zone publisher who may have not understood the implications of operational choices (e.g. steady state single trust anchor vs 5011s recommendation of multiple trust anchors). E.g. "RFC5011 DNSSEC Key Rollover Strategy" isn't a document referenced by this document, and that would be the document that would be in need of an update. 6) Same comment - it's not an update to the 5011 timers, but to the understanding of the publishers of such zones that use 5011. 7) Please include references of the emails of the "root server community" review - AFAICT, Ed Lewis was the only one to comment on the list and the last comment was last year.

Mike


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