Re-, 

Please see inline. 

Cheers,
Med 

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Wes Hardaker <[email protected]>
> Envoyé : mercredi 21 mai 2025 00:40
> À : Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker <[email protected]>
> Cc : The IESG <[email protected]>; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> <[email protected]>; draft-ietf-dnsop-must-not-ecc-
> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> Objet : Re: Mohamed Boucadair's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-
> must-not-ecc-gost-04: (with COMMENT)
> 
> 
> Mohamed Boucadair via Datatracker <[email protected]> writes:
> 
> > # Update
> >
> > CURRENT:
> >    Updates: 5933 (if approved)
> 
> Removed the updates.  Though others may want me to remove the
> removal.
> We'll see :-)

[Med] :-)

BTW, any reason why we have this new normative reference in 
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-dnsop-must-not-ecc-gost-05:


6.  Normative References

   ...

   [draft-ietf-dnsop-algorithm-update]
              W., K., "Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage
              Guidance for DNSSEC", n.d.,
              <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-
              algorithm-update>.

Maybe the intent was to cite rfc8624bis?

> 
> > The update to 5933 is not needed here given that the registry
> already tags 12 as deprecated.
> >
> > # Why a separate document?
> >
> > It is tempting to ask why this is not handled as part of
> > draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8624, though.
> 
> I think you likely already saw my other responses on this subject.
> But I'll quote myself again here:
> 
> So this is where the confusion really comes in and one of the
> reasons we wanted to change how this is done.  In the past there
> were two sources of information that specified where you should
> look for current status of a given algorithm:
> 
> 1. the IANA tables (which you note deprecates GOST R 34.10-2001).
> 2. RFC8624 (which talks about implementation requirements and has
> GOST R
> 34.10-2001 still listed as MAY)
> 
> Thus, the WG decided to:
> 
> 1. Update 8624 so it no longer contained the implementation
> guidance and moved the requirements into the IANA table itself, to
> address this very source of confusion.  To ensure that 8624bis
> would get through without diving into a debate about particular
> algorithms, the WG concluded that 8624bis should not change any
> values at all from 8624 and should just be about switching how
> things were done.
> 
> 2. Issue future documents about changing the values could then be
> created to actually make value changes once the IANA registry
> update was complete.  The first two documents doing so are the
> must-not-gost and
> must-not-sha1 documents.  These were intentionally written as
> separate documents for two reasons:  A) because we didn't know if
> the WG would actually want to change those values (IE, it was an
> independent
> discussion) and B) to test the process of the new 862bis
> procedures.
> 
> Technically, the documents could be combined but the history is
> much cleaner as 3 separate documents.  In our humble opinion, of
> course, and is what the consensus was as well.
> 
> --
> Wes Hardaker
> USC/ISI
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