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Hi, I saw you are active in promoting Right to Left terminal emulation
and I am aware that many terminal emulators don't work well fro right to
left locales.
Today I created a new project on Launchpad named "biditerm". I have made
a basic bidirectional terminal emulator and am hoping you might know of
people who are interested in this project.
Thanks,
Chris
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Thanks for those links I'll check them out in a moment.
I have looked at the source code for the vte widget and also for
gnome-terminal and xterm. To be honest I can see why no progress is
being made there. All that code has been hacked about so much with
utterly useless features confusing the issues. It was poorly
constructed from the start, so it is a real developer's nightmare.
Regarding the biditerm project, I am an experienced programmer, but
totally new to the Linux world and so I'm trying to learn all about
programming for Linux. Making a new terminal emulator seems like a
good subject to motivate my study and I would like to create it with a
very clean code structure so that it can ultimately be used as the
basis to derive more specialized terminal emulators.
That first draft version did not take long to write, but as I have
been adding standard terminal control sequences for cursor movement
and resizing the window I can now see potential problems ahead that
stem from the Gtk graphical user interface tool kit I am working with.
Thus at the moment I am taking a step back to look at the alternative
and very promising QT tool kit from Nokia, but it is all new to me so
may take a while to get used to.
On 18 October 2010 06:14, Usama Akkad <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> Sorry for the late replay. I've been busy lately.
>
> Thanks for your efforts. The problem with Terminal that there is vte
> that is implemented in some programs like gnome-terminal and synaptic to
> show terminal output.
>
> You might have heard about Mlterm which support RTL very well but lack
> some vte features. You can find more details here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mlterm
>
> Any way it's good to hear that there is more people interested in this
> subject as it's important to many RTL languages users like Arabic,
> Persian and Urdu.
>
> I've tested Biditerm and I was surprised how a small package like it
> could display Arabic character, though that was not possible every
> where. I would like to know more about your project and what are your
> plans for it.
>
> You can find more interested people in the bugs listed in Ubuntu Mlterm
> page, like these:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/vte/+bug/263822
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/562130
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Usama Akkad
>
>
> 10 عند 05:39 +0000 ، كتب Chris Scaife:
>> Hi, I saw you are active in promoting Right to Left terminal emulation
>> and I am aware that many terminal emulators don't work well fro right to
>> left locales.
>>
>> Today I created a new project on Launchpad named "biditerm". I have made
>> a basic bidirectional terminal emulator and am hoping you might know of
>> people who are interested in this project.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>
>
>
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Just thought I would let you know that I investigated QT graphical
user interface software library for how it works with Right to left
text. Sadly it also has problems.
I've been posting about it on ubuntu prgramming talk forum
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9994641#post9994641
On 18 October 2010 09:56, Chris Scaife <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for those links I'll check them out in a moment.
>
> I have looked at the source code for the vte widget and also for
> gnome-terminal and xterm. To be honest I can see why no progress is
> being made there. All that code has been hacked about so much with
> utterly useless features confusing the issues. It was poorly
> constructed from the start, so it is a real developer's nightmare.
>
> Regarding the biditerm project, I am an experienced programmer, but
> totally new to the Linux world and so I'm trying to learn all about
> programming for Linux. Making a new terminal emulator seems like a
> good subject to motivate my study and I would like to create it with a
> very clean code structure so that it can ultimately be used as the
> basis to derive more specialized terminal emulators.
>
> That first draft version did not take long to write, but as I have
> been adding standard terminal control sequences for cursor movement
> and resizing the window I can now see potential problems ahead that
> stem from the Gtk graphical user interface tool kit I am working with.
>
> Thus at the moment I am taking a step back to look at the alternative
> and very promising QT tool kit from Nokia, but it is all new to me so
> may take a while to get used to.
>
> On 18 October 2010 06:14, Usama Akkad <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> Sorry for the late replay. I've been busy lately.
>>
>> Thanks for your efforts. The problem with Terminal that there is vte
>> that is implemented in some programs like gnome-terminal and synaptic to
>> show terminal output.
>>
>> You might have heard about Mlterm which support RTL very well but lack
>> some vte features. You can find more details here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mlterm
>>
>> Any way it's good to hear that there is more people interested in this
>> subject as it's important to many RTL languages users like Arabic,
>> Persian and Urdu.
>>
>> I've tested Biditerm and I was surprised how a small package like it
>> could display Arabic character, though that was not possible every
>> where. I would like to know more about your project and what are your
>> plans for it.
>>
>> You can find more interested people in the bugs listed in Ubuntu Mlterm
>> page, like these:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/vte/+bug/263822
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/562130
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Usama Akkad
>>
>>
>> 10 عند 05:39 +0000 ، كتب Chris Scaife:
>>> Hi, I saw you are active in promoting Right to Left terminal emulation
>>> and I am aware that many terminal emulators don't work well fro right to
>>> left locales.
>>>
>>> Today I created a new project on Launchpad named "biditerm". I have made
>>> a basic bidirectional terminal emulator and am hoping you might know of
>>> people who are interested in this project.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>
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