كيف يمكن للشخص مساعدته؟ 2010/10/22 Usama Akkad <[email protected]>
> سلام > هذا شخص يتحدث عن رغبته بعمل طرفية تدعم الاتجاه من اليمين لليسار > > ارجو النظر في الموضوع ومراسلته إن امكن > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Chris Scaife <[email protected]> > To: Usama Akkad <[email protected]> > Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 05:39:51 -0000 > Subject: R2L terminal emulator > Hi, I saw you are active in promoting Right to Left terminal emulation > and I am aware that many terminal emulators don't work well fro right to > left locales. > > Today I created a new project on Launchpad named "biditerm". I have made > a basic bidirectional terminal emulator and am hoping you might know of > people who are interested in this project. > > Thanks, > Chris > -- > This message was sent from Launchpad by > Chris Scaife > (https://launchpad.net/~scaife-chris<https://launchpad.net/%7Escaife-chris> > ) > using the "Contact this user" link on your profile page > (https://launchpad.net/~damascene <https://launchpad.net/%7Edamascene>). > For more information see > https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ContactingPeople > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Chris Scaife <[email protected]> > To: Usama Akkad <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:56:09 +1300 > Subject: Re: R2L terminal emulator > Thanks for those links I'll check them out in a moment. > > I have looked at the source code for the vte widget and also for > gnome-terminal and xterm. To be honest I can see why no progress is > being made there. All that code has been hacked about so much with > utterly useless features confusing the issues. It was poorly > constructed from the start, so it is a real developer's nightmare. > > Regarding the biditerm project, I am an experienced programmer, but > totally new to the Linux world and so I'm trying to learn all about > programming for Linux. Making a new terminal emulator seems like a > good subject to motivate my study and I would like to create it with a > very clean code structure so that it can ultimately be used as the > basis to derive more specialized terminal emulators. > > That first draft version did not take long to write, but as I have > been adding standard terminal control sequences for cursor movement > and resizing the window I can now see potential problems ahead that > stem from the Gtk graphical user interface tool kit I am working with. > > Thus at the moment I am taking a step back to look at the alternative > and very promising QT tool kit from Nokia, but it is all new to me so > may take a while to get used to. > > On 18 October 2010 06:14, Usama Akkad <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > Sorry for the late replay. I've been busy lately. > > > > Thanks for your efforts. The problem with Terminal that there is vte > > that is implemented in some programs like gnome-terminal and synaptic to > > show terminal output. > > > > You might have heard about Mlterm which support RTL very well but lack > > some vte features. You can find more details here: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mlterm > > > > Any way it's good to hear that there is more people interested in this > > subject as it's important to many RTL languages users like Arabic, > > Persian and Urdu. > > > > I've tested Biditerm and I was surprised how a small package like it > > could display Arabic character, though that was not possible every > > where. I would like to know more about your project and what are your > > plans for it. > > > > You can find more interested people in the bugs listed in Ubuntu Mlterm > > page, like these: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/vte/+bug/263822 > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/562130 > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Usama Akkad > > > > > > 10 عند 05:39 +0000 ، كتب Chris Scaife: > >> Hi, I saw you are active in promoting Right to Left terminal emulation > >> and I am aware that many terminal emulators don't work well fro right to > >> left locales. > >> > >> Today I created a new project on Launchpad named "biditerm". I have made > >> a basic bidirectional terminal emulator and am hoping you might know of > >> people who are interested in this project. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Chris > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Chris Scaife <[email protected]> > To: Usama Akkad <[email protected]> > Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 21:03:43 +1300 > Subject: Re: R2L terminal emulator > Just thought I would let you know that I investigated QT graphical > user interface software library for how it works with Right to left > text. Sadly it also has problems. > > I've been posting about it on ubuntu prgramming talk forum > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9994641#post9994641 > > On 18 October 2010 09:56, Chris Scaife <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for those links I'll check them out in a moment. > > > > I have looked at the source code for the vte widget and also for > > gnome-terminal and xterm. To be honest I can see why no progress is > > being made there. All that code has been hacked about so much with > > utterly useless features confusing the issues. It was poorly > > constructed from the start, so it is a real developer's nightmare. > > > > Regarding the biditerm project, I am an experienced programmer, but > > totally new to the Linux world and so I'm trying to learn all about > > programming for Linux. Making a new terminal emulator seems like a > > good subject to motivate my study and I would like to create it with a > > very clean code structure so that it can ultimately be used as the > > basis to derive more specialized terminal emulators. > > > > That first draft version did not take long to write, but as I have > > been adding standard terminal control sequences for cursor movement > > and resizing the window I can now see potential problems ahead that > > stem from the Gtk graphical user interface tool kit I am working with. > > > > Thus at the moment I am taking a step back to look at the alternative > > and very promising QT tool kit from Nokia, but it is all new to me so > > may take a while to get used to. > > > > On 18 October 2010 06:14, Usama Akkad <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Chris, > >> Sorry for the late replay. I've been busy lately. > >> > >> Thanks for your efforts. The problem with Terminal that there is vte > >> that is implemented in some programs like gnome-terminal and synaptic to > >> show terminal output. > >> > >> You might have heard about Mlterm which support RTL very well but lack > >> some vte features. You can find more details here: > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mlterm > >> > >> Any way it's good to hear that there is more people interested in this > >> subject as it's important to many RTL languages users like Arabic, > >> Persian and Urdu. > >> > >> I've tested Biditerm and I was surprised how a small package like it > >> could display Arabic character, though that was not possible every > >> where. I would like to know more about your project and what are your > >> plans for it. > >> > >> You can find more interested people in the bugs listed in Ubuntu Mlterm > >> page, like these: > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/vte/+bug/263822 > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/562130 > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> Usama Akkad > >> > >> > >> 10 عند 05:39 +0000 ، كتب Chris Scaife: > >>> Hi, I saw you are active in promoting Right to Left terminal emulation > >>> and I am aware that many terminal emulators don't work well fro right > to > >>> left locales. > >>> > >>> Today I created a new project on Launchpad named "biditerm". I have > made > >>> a basic bidirectional terminal emulator and am hoping you might know of > >>> people who are interested in this project. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Chris > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Doc mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.arabeyes.org/mailman/listinfo/doc > -- Mohammad Aboulnour. Alexandria University. Faculty Of Engineering. Computer & Systems Engineering Department.
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