Stas Bekman wrote: > > well, granted, the content looses a little focus beeing > > box-border-less. i dont mind that at all. in fact i regard > > it as feature (!). when i surf a site (that i have never > > visited before) the most important thing focus-wise for me > > is in a way not the content but the navigation. > > can you follow me? i mean, there is no way (in either > > design) that you feel lost (navigation-wise) at anytime - on > > the contrary. > > true, if you navigate a lot. This is not the case with perl.apache.org > -- here you spend most of the time sitting in one place and reading the > docs.
but is that an argument for using boxes and contrasting bg? if we had a lot of commerical crap flying around pur pages i would agree but the very basic of our design is so simple - you just start reading from a point and then downwards - there are nothing distracting in your way - it just like a normal word-document or whatever. the way i see it we simply (basically) just have this: - menu - content area everything in the content area is documentation, ie stuff that people want to sit and _read_ and move inside. correct me if im wrong, but i think if you take almost any word-processing editor or text-editor or dtp-program (at least for windows and macintosh) they will default have a white background-color and a black default font - i reckon there is a reason for this. the finished document from such a word-proccesor will more often than not look close to our design in the content area. a header (often centered), some teaser text, base text with some headlines etc. anyway, i think that you and i simply disagree on this and if i cannot persuade you by a good design, then too bad. i am working on a new design similar to the one from yesterday. screenshot from ie5: http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/div/download/Picture_34.gif do you like any of those ideas - the bar-widget is not finished ... these are new/old ideas/feats: - html tables (i give in) - html 100% valid - css 100% valid - all fonts are relative using ems (all fonts are also now rather small) - base font is verdana - body bgcolor is light gray - no horizontal scrollbar - optimized for min. 800x600 resolution - borders around content box but not header - menu-text centered - a "broken" bar for search pdf|src next|prev - link colors kept ASF > We want to have the best experience for people using our site. And most > users will spend their time in /docs > > Moreover since the amount of documentation is huge and growing, > navigation will be hardly used at all inside /docs, because most users > will use search to get to the item they want. > > Once I reach the item that I want to read, I want to keep focused on it. > > > so from a user-friendly perspective i think this design is in > > fact better because focus is withdrawn fron the content. > > no-one in the world would (in either design) be uncertain of > > what is content and what is navigation and what is ad(-ons). > > some sites have so many boxes that its hard to seperate > > functionality sometimes. > > I guess it all depends on your definition of user-friendly-ness, placed > into the certain context. Remember that we don't try to design a generic > site, but a special purpose site. > > >>>- menu-text centered (this looks strangely enough better IMO) > >>> > >>I think this is not user-friendly. An English speaking person's eye is > >>accustomed to read left to right, so by centralizing the menu you create > >>an obstacle. > >> > > > > yes, it probably is not user-friendly but on the other hand > > not exactly hostile either :-) > > its not like the menu takes up a lot of words and space. to > > me this particular issue wrt the menu is a very small sacrifice. > > btw, if you turn off stylesheets its in fact more > > user-friendly than the original design IMO. > > But why? because it looks fancier? centered text looks IMO fancier here yes (dont know why). titles are also often centered, so people are used to centered text from time to time. > Why do you want users to turn CSS off? no no no, not at all. but i guess some people do turn css off, maybe for userbility reasons and _if_ they do turn it off our design must still be ok. ./allan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
