Webmaster wrote: > > Wow. I'm not willing to participate in a community that publically says > they don't want me. I really resent being treated like an outlaw or some > blackhat. Its shocking how different my view of Apache is now compared to > the previous 10 years.
10 years ago we were busy telling an organization that WebTen for the classic MacOS could not be branded the "Apache Server" as that infringed on our mark, and their patches had not become part of the "Apache Server". In the subsequent 10 years, we have revisited this issue often and defend the Apache mark as fairly as possible to avoid confusion. I was impressed, visiting your site, that you disclaimed any association with the ASF on your askapache.con main page. As much as your choice of domain names irritates me, I Thank You for this clarity. That said, there is no such disclaimer using such a name on our wiki, so you must be kidding if you think we are treating you differently, or in any way specially. On an almost weekly basis, one PMC or another at the ASF has to ask some helpful third party site to desist from infringing on the ASF's marks. He requested that you choose another name, seemed like a reasonable idea to me. You had been asked on several occasions to take specific actions that would help users from falling into configuration traps and errors, and you choose not to. You persisted in irritating virtually every long standing contributor to the Apache httpd docs. And you engaged them in wiki edit wars with our most consistent contributors. He asked that you summarize in a really short paragraph the policies that you would follow to prevent any future misunderstanding, seemed like a reasonable idea to me. And yet - they offered a trivial way for you to redeem yourself and have a fresh start. I give them credit for entertaining the thought. > I hope in the future you realize its in your best interests to be polite and > friendly. You won't be hearing from me again. Considering how forgiving folks are, it's sad you didn't recognize that they were offering you an olive branch to make peace. In our best interests though? There are some who would say that your contribution was far from the httpd project's interests, never mind the end users following your advise. We are all continually learning what is rational and what is not so advisable in the Apache configuration and it's code. I've been beaten up by security analysts over flaws created by my own code contributions. We all are continually learning, from what I have read in this thread, you weren't terribly open to learning the flaws in your recommendations. At this project, contribution is a two way street, and those who only talk, and rarely listen, rarely have contributions we value. They had tried to steer you in the right direction, and you never budged. This became a significant time sink and probably was a net loss. And yet they persisted in helping you become part of the community. Shame on you for not taking Joshua up on his hospitality. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
