Just curious... what is the demand for the comprehensive manuals actually
like?

Are a noticeable number selling through Lulu? Do we have any indication how
many copies of the ODT and PDF docs are downloaded? Are they something the
user base uses and references a lot? Or are people looking more just online
without ever looking at the docs? Do the companies and government offices
doing conversion over to LibreOffice use these docs or some other doc
prepared by the migration team?

This was something I never really got a grasp on years ago as well...

Clayton
On Dec 9, 2015 01:49, "Jean Weber" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Even worse, IIRC some of the "drafts" aren't actually updated; they have
> notes on what needs to be done.
>
> Two of our more prolific contributors (John Smith and Peter Schofield) have
> left, citing other priorities. (I hope they and their families are well.) I
> have cut my work back to very little. I hope the new team mentor, whoever
> they turn out to be, can re-energise the group and bring in, mentor, and
> keep some new people.
>
> Other than this ongoing practical problem of no one to do the work, I think
> Marc's suggestion is good; and, indeed, I think we were theoretically doing
> what he suggests.
>
> --Jean
>
> On Tuesday, December 8, 2015, elderdanlewis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Presently only chapters 1, 2, 3, 6, and 8 have even had drafts written. I
> > have not seen anyone else volunteer to work on another chapter. Nor has
> > anyone volunteered to work on the other guides other than the Base Guide
> > and the Base Handbook . We need some people that are willing to help
> > produce the documentation.
> > Dan
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Marc Paré <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> > Date:12/07/2015  10:20 AM  (GMT-05:00)
> > To: [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting Started Doc for 5.0.x?
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Lately, I have been thinking about the available documentation for
> > v.5.x.x of LibreOffice which we all know is in the works.
> >
> > I am wondering if the following would make any sense to the
> > documentation workflow:
> >
> > At the announcement of any large upgrade to LibreOffice, (in this case
> > v.5.x.x), that the documentation team (all members) make sure that the
> > "Getting Started" guide gets its full attention and is given priority in
> > being updated. At that point, all other documentation updates are put on
> > hold, and the "Getting Started v.X.0.0" takes precedence in getting
> > completely updated after which, when done, the doc team returns to its
> > normal workflow.
> >
> > This would ensure that at the very least the "Getting Started" guide is
> > completed and ready for publication.
> >
> > This would also ensure that the LibreOffice teams have, at the very
> > least, the "Getting Started" guide to offer LibreOffice users at the
> > individual or large scale installation education/business/corporate
> levels.
> >
> > So, my suggestion is that, at the very least, the "Getting Started"
> > guide would get precedence in getting updated for the large upgrades for:
> >
> > LibreOffice v.5.0.0
> > LibreOffice v.6.0.0
> > LibreOffice v.7.0.0
> >
> > The "Getting Started" guide would then eventually be part of the
> > announcements/news releases of the major LibreOffice upgrades. The
> > benefit to this is that the LibreOffice documentation team would then
> > have more of a raised profile at the time of these major news releases
> > and would also have one completed documentation to offer organizations
> > such as Libraries, educational users, corporate users, and individual
> > users of LibreOffice etc.
> >
> > I know this is asking much of the doc community, but my concern at this
> > point is that we are now working at v.5.0.4 where some users and large
> > scale installers may move to this latest version of LibreOffice, but
> > will find that there is no documentation available for it, but that some
> > documentation is being updated but with no fixed date of completion.
> >
> > Would this approach work?
> >
> > Note that the reason I am suggesting this is also because I am hoping to
> > convince a few libraries in Canada to purchase the guides, but they
> > would most likely not want to purchase the LibreOffice v.4 if the most
> > recent v.5 has been out for a while. The same for a group of local LUG
> > users and also other individuals I help with LibreOffice v.5.x.x.
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Le 2015-11-07 22:09, Jean Weber a écrit :
> > > That link is to the latest. Very little has been done on a more up to
> > > date version. :-(
> > >
> > > --Jean
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Marc Paré <[email protected]
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I am just helping out a small group using LibreOffice and wondered if
> > there
> > >> is a version of Getting Started for v.5.0.x?
> > >>
> > >> If that version is not available is the v.4.2 the latest guide ... it
> > is the
> > >> one on this page that I am on:
> > >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the info.
> > >>
> > >> Marc
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
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