On Wednesday, December 9, 2015, C <[email protected]> wrote: > Just curious... what is the demand for the comprehensive manuals actually > like? > > Are a noticeable number selling through Lulu?
Yes. I can get the numbers for you, but not right now. > Do we have any indication how > many copies of the ODT and PDF docs are downloaded? No, though there may be a way to find out. > Are they something the > user base uses and references a lot? Or are people looking more just online > without ever looking at the docs? I suspect most users never look at documentation in any form, even if/when they know it exists. We might be able to get some indication from the user support list. Those people who do read the user guides (either print or PDF) sometimes write notes of profuse thanks to us for producing them. --Jean > Do the companies and government offices > doing conversion over to LibreOffice use these docs or some other doc > prepared by the migration team? > This was something I never really got a grasp on years ago as well... > > Clayton > On Dec 9, 2015 01:49, "Jean Weber" <[email protected] <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > Even worse, IIRC some of the "drafts" aren't actually updated; they have > > notes on what needs to be done. > > > > Two of our more prolific contributors (John Smith and Peter Schofield) > have > > left, citing other priorities. (I hope they and their families are > well.) I > > have cut my work back to very little. I hope the new team mentor, whoever > > they turn out to be, can re-energise the group and bring in, mentor, and > > keep some new people. > > > > Other than this ongoing practical problem of no one to do the work, I > think > > Marc's suggestion is good; and, indeed, I think we were theoretically > doing > > what he suggests. > > > > --Jean > > > > On Tuesday, December 8, 2015, elderdanlewis <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > > > > Presently only chapters 1, 2, 3, 6, and 8 have even had drafts > written. I > > > have not seen anyone else volunteer to work on another chapter. Nor has > > > anyone volunteered to work on the other guides other than the Base > Guide > > > and the Base Handbook . We need some people that are willing to help > > > produce the documentation. > > > Dan > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > From: Marc Paré <[email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> > > > Date:12/07/2015 10:20 AM (GMT-05:00) > > > To: [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;> > > > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting Started Doc for 5.0.x? > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Lately, I have been thinking about the available documentation for > > > v.5.x.x of LibreOffice which we all know is in the works. > > > > > > I am wondering if the following would make any sense to the > > > documentation workflow: > > > > > > At the announcement of any large upgrade to LibreOffice, (in this case > > > v.5.x.x), that the documentation team (all members) make sure that the > > > "Getting Started" guide gets its full attention and is given priority > in > > > being updated. At that point, all other documentation updates are put > on > > > hold, and the "Getting Started v.X.0.0" takes precedence in getting > > > completely updated after which, when done, the doc team returns to its > > > normal workflow. > > > > > > This would ensure that at the very least the "Getting Started" guide is > > > completed and ready for publication. > > > > > > This would also ensure that the LibreOffice teams have, at the very > > > least, the "Getting Started" guide to offer LibreOffice users at the > > > individual or large scale installation education/business/corporate > > levels. > > > > > > So, my suggestion is that, at the very least, the "Getting Started" > > > guide would get precedence in getting updated for the large upgrades > for: > > > > > > LibreOffice v.5.0.0 > > > LibreOffice v.6.0.0 > > > LibreOffice v.7.0.0 > > > > > > The "Getting Started" guide would then eventually be part of the > > > announcements/news releases of the major LibreOffice upgrades. The > > > benefit to this is that the LibreOffice documentation team would then > > > have more of a raised profile at the time of these major news releases > > > and would also have one completed documentation to offer organizations > > > such as Libraries, educational users, corporate users, and individual > > > users of LibreOffice etc. > > > > > > I know this is asking much of the doc community, but my concern at this > > > point is that we are now working at v.5.0.4 where some users and large > > > scale installers may move to this latest version of LibreOffice, but > > > will find that there is no documentation available for it, but that > some > > > documentation is being updated but with no fixed date of completion. > > > > > > Would this approach work? > > > > > > Note that the reason I am suggesting this is also because I am hoping > to > > > convince a few libraries in Canada to purchase the guides, but they > > > would most likely not want to purchase the LibreOffice v.4 if the most > > > recent v.5 has been out for a while. The same for a group of local LUG > > > users and also other individuals I help with LibreOffice v.5.x.x. > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > Le 2015-11-07 22:09, Jean Weber a écrit : > > > > That link is to the latest. Very little has been done on a more up to > > > > date version. :-( > > > > > > > > --Jean > > > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Marc Paré <[email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> I am just helping out a small group using LibreOffice and wondered > if > > > there > > > >> is a version of Getting Started for v.5.0.x? > > > >> > > > >> If that version is not available is the v.4.2 the latest guide ... > it > > > is the > > > >> one on this page that I am on: > > > >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ > > > >> > > > >> Thanks for the info. > > > >> > > > >> Marc > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Marc Paré > > > [email protected] > > > http://www.parEntreprise.com > > > parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) > > > parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> > > > Problems? > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > deleted > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> > > > Problems? > > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > > List archive: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > > deleted > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > Problems? > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] > <javascript:;> > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
