I've gone ahead with option #1: user docs are categorized as
"Documentation", following precedent. I haven't yet touched the doc dev
pages.

I've found quite a few orphaned pages (no incoming links), old pages, and
stubs, which I've categorized. You can look at the documentation category
page to get a feel for what kinds of things are floating around. Most
notable among these are the "HowTo" pages, which I moved into a common
hierarchy like the FAQ pages, put in a subcategory of the same name.

--Kenneth

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Kenneth Hanson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I'm continuing to work a bit on the wiki, now focusing on organizing user
> docs. For a refresher, see what I wrote in August: https://wiki.
> documentfoundation.org/User:Khanson679/Wiki_cleanup
>
> I haven't gotten much input on this issue, but I'm now leaning against
> moving all such pages under a common parent page. For now at least, I'd
> like to just add them to a proper category, such as "User Documentation".
>
> So, I'd really like to solve the category naming issue for user
> documentation vs documentation development. I see three basic possibilities:
> 1. "Documentation" for user docs, something else for documentation
> development
> 2. "Documentation" for documentation development, something else for user
> docs
> 3. Explicit names for both
>
> Note: One person (wiki username Jumbo444) mentioned
> <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Talk:Documentation> that there is a
> third logical category, docs for developers, QA, L10n, etc.). They point to
> the French documentation wiki page, which divides its links that way. I
> think this is good idea, but more of a presentation issue -- that is, I
> don't think it would do much good to create a supercategory containing all
> of these.
>
> (1) might be the most straightforward and understandable for most people.
> There seems to be somewhat of a preexisting custom of marking user docs as
> "Documentation". In this case, it would be natural for documentation
> development to be a subcategory.
>
> (2) might better parallel the structure of other parts of the wiki, in
> that "Marketing" is pages for the marketing team, etc. But it also might be
> confusing.
>
> (3) is, well, the most explicit. Presumably both would be subcategories of
> "Documentation".
>
> I can imagine people continuing to use "Documentation" for user docs by
> mistake in cases (2) and (3), but perhaps this is just me.
>
> Any opinions? Any other considerations?
>
> --Kenneth
>
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Kenneth Hanson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In this context it would be sufficient
>>> to post a notification of the intended changes to this list and if no
>>> objections/alternatives are put forward within a reasonable period of
>>> time, then go ahead.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for clarifying. This sounds reasonable. I also have a better feel
>> now for what kinds of edits can be considered minor, and what things would
>> be better to check on first.
>>
>>
>>> This approach would have avoided the situation with
>>> the FR FAQ being moved on the wiki, since Sophie could have pointed out
>>> the potential problem Kenneth had not foreseen and saved additional
>>> unnecessary work.
>>>
>>
>> I think it's worth mentioning here that it wasn't so much the fact that I
>> moved the pages, as it was that I screwed up the move in such a way that
>> Wikimedia won't let me undo it. In other words, it was a technical problem
>> that I don't think anyone would have forseen.
>>
>> Because no one has yet fixed this or given me the ability to do so, I
>> still don't know whether the redirects would be okay if the pages had been
>> moved as intended.
>>
>> Nonetheless, I will still be more careful now that I understand
>> Wikimedia's limitations.
>>
>> --Kenneth
>>
>
>

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