Hi Drew,

I don't think you have totally misstated the situation. From what I
read, there is still much discussion and debate about what is the best
way to provide institutional administrators with options to control this
(and other) features.

Thanks for keeping us posted.

Dave


On 13.11.2018 17:33, Drew Jensen wrote:
> I may have misstated the situation for institutional users. Will need to
> follow up on that with folks in the Dev/UX world to check that.
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 12:04 PM Drew Jensen <drewjensen.in...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> From what I gathered there will be only one of those enabled. Which is, on
>> the list, 'Tabbed'. The others will remain as experimental.
>>
>> This means that for individual users after either a fresh install, or an
>> upgrade, the old standard toolbars will be selected as the default
>> interface, but now every user will have the option to make the Tabbed
>> Notebook bar their default interface.
>>
>> For institutional users it can be a bit different. In many of these cases
>> an network administrator handles installs and updates and could set the new
>> Tabbed interface for all users. Here a new hire after the change may not
>> even realize the old standard toolbars are available.
>>
>> So, my first thought about handling it in 6.2 might be to go the route of
>> yet another appendix.
>>
>>
>>
>> For inst
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:47 AM Dave Barton <da...@libreoffice.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 13.11.2018 13:43, Drew Jensen wrote:
>>>> Howdy all,
>>>>
>>>> With the decision to bring the tabbed notebook bar from experimental to
>>> a
>>>> standard feature I suppose the question becomes:
>>>> What, if anything, does this mean for the user guides?
>>>>
>>>> For those that may not know, when the user chooses to use the notebook
>>> bar
>>>> it will replace the standard toolbars in all (almost all) components in
>>> the
>>>> application.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Drew
>>> Just one difference, many times more work for documentation, because we
>>> will have to cover:
>>>
>>>   * Standard Toolbar
>>>   * Single Toolbar
>>>   * Contextual groups
>>>   * Contextual Single
>>>   * Tabbed
>>>   * Tabbed Compact
>>>   * Groupedbar
>>>   * Groupedbar Compact
>>>
>>> Fine for the refugees from MS, but we have to document all this for the
>>> uninitiated.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
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