Hello Steve,

So that's what caused this controversy!

To reproduce your steps, I inserted a Note-Gold as well, and when applying
another color in the Area Style / Filling controls, my LO Calc (Linux)
changed the whole image, only the small yellow line on the top remains in
the original color.

Here what it looks like for me:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/mCRCBncnyRAxR4J

That's why I thought this was expected.
In this case, I'm going to see if this issue is just a configuration error
in my LO version, or else I'm gonna report a bug on this.

Thank you very much!

Best regards,
Felipe Viggiano

Em ter., 11 de ago. de 2020 às 13:01, Steve (GMail) <
[email protected]> escreveu:

> Hi Felipe,
>
> Thanks for the further explanation, I understand the context of the
> comment now.
>
> On my Windows version of LO 7.0.0.2, Calc's Area Style / FIlling changes
> the background of inserted Gallery items, not the images themselves. As
> a worked example, I inserted the Note-Gold image in the Shapes theme of
> the Gallery into an empty spreadsheet. Very little background is visible
> on this particular image, just a small triangle in the bottom right
> corner. When I selected the inserted image and made selections with the
> Area Style / FIlling controls, only the appearance of that small
> triangle changes, not the whole image.
>
> Of course if you insert one of the transparent images in the Gallery
> which has lots of background area (e.g. the Textbox image in the Shapes
> theme), then it may appear that the inserted image is changing color.
> However I think it's just the background that's changing.
>
> In summary my Windows version of Calc 7 appears to be behaving
> consistently in this respect for Gallery images and non-Gallery images,
> and so I'm not sure that the note you suggest is valid.
>
> Please could you have another look at your end - is it possible that
> this is another problem with LO in your particular operating
> environment?
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Felipe Viggiano" <[email protected]>
> To: "Steve (GMail)" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Documentation Team" <[email protected]>
> Sent: 11/08/2020 13:19:19
> Subject: Re: Re[4]: [libreoffice-documentation] Thanks to Calc Guide
> reviewers
>
> >Hello Steve,
> >
> >I am very sorry, now I can see the mistake.
> >
> >Where is written:
> >"with exception to clipboards"
> >
> >Please consider this:
> >"with exception to images from the Gallery"
> >
> >I wrote clipboards thinking in the images from the Gallery, sorry about
> >that.
> >
> >
> >When the guide was describing the Area Style / FIlling button it was
> >saying the following:
> >
> >"Area  Style / Filling – sets the color or other characteristics       of
> >the background area that contains the image, not the image itself."
> >
> >But I believe this is only true for inserted images from an external
> >file (like a .jpg or a .png). When we are talking about an image from
> >the Gallery, this button changes the image itself, and not the
> >background.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Felipe Viggiano
> >
> >
> >Em ter., 11 de ago. de 2020 às 07:29, Steve (GMail)
> ><[email protected]> escreveu:
> >>Hi Felipe,
> >>
> >>I'm really sorry if I'm being stupid, but I'm not familiar with the
> >>Calc
> >>feature that you are discussing. Please could you give me some idea of
> >>the user interactions required to "apply a change in the  Area Style /
> >>Filling to a clipboard", so that I can understand the context of your
> >>comment?
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>------ Original Message ------
> >>From: "Felipe Viggiano" <[email protected]>
> >>To: "Steve (GMail)" <[email protected]>
> >>Cc: "Documentation Team" <[email protected]>
> >>Sent: 11/08/2020 01:02:44
> >>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [libreoffice-documentation] Thanks to Calc Guide
> >>reviewers
> >>
> >> >Hello Steve,
> >> >
> >> >Thanks again for the feedback!
> >> >
> >> >About the clipboard suggestion, sorry I was not clear enough at that
> >> >point. My intention there was to remind the user that when a change
> >>in
> >> >the Area Style / Filling is applied to a clipboard, it won't change
> >>the
> >> >background, it will actually change the colours of the clipboard
> >> >itself.
> >> >
> >> >About the tip I will keep that in mind for the next reviews!
> >> >
> >> >Best regards,
> >> >Felipe Viggiano
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Em seg., 10 de ago. de 2020 às 07:24, Steve (GMail)
> >> ><[email protected]> escreveu:
> >> >>Hello Felipe,
> >> >>
> >> >>As ever, many thanks for the comments.
> >> >>
> >> >>I have worked through your comments and in one or two cases used
> >>some
> >> >>editorial judgement to reword things. I hope that's okay. The
> >>document
> >> >>is now in Draft ready for second review.
> >> >>
> >> >>Two matters arising:
> >> >>Under Figure 4, description of Area Style /Filling controls on the
> >> >>Image
> >> >>toolbar. You have suggested adding the text “(with exception to
> >> >>clipboards)”. I’m sorry but I don’t understand what this means and
> >>why
> >> >>it is needed. Please feel free to respond by email and clarify what
> >> >>you
> >> >>intended. I'll update the document if appropriate before second
> >> >>review.
> >> >>I have not included the proposed tip (shortly after Figure 11) to
> >> >>highlight the 7.0 addition of the Glow and Soft Edge options on the
> >> >>Properties deck when a drawing object is selected. These controls
> >>are
> >> >>clearly visible on Figure 12 and we don’t normally embed tips in the
> >> >>text of a guide, when the sole purpose of that tip is to state that
> >>a
> >> >>particular feature is new. (The Release Notes, which are linked in
> >>the
> >> >>Preface section of the guide, do that job).
> >> >>Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >>Steve
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>------ Original Message ------
> >> >>From: "Felipe Viggiano" <[email protected]>
> >> >>To: "Steve (GMail)" <[email protected]>
> >> >>Cc: "Documentation Team" <[email protected]>
> >> >>Sent: 08/08/2020 22:32:39
> >> >>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Thanks to Calc Guide
> >> >>reviewers
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hello everyone,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Just uploaded a first review on the CG7005 - Using Graphics in the
> >> >> >Feedback folder.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >With that I uploaded a .zip file with a few images to support some
> >>of
> >> >> >the comments.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The Calc Status Guide has been updated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Steve,
> >> >> >Just for information, I did manage to reproduce those Data Labels
> >> >>steps
> >> >> >in the new LO Calc latest release in the Safe Mode, so this is
> >> >>probably
> >> >> >a configuration issue.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >But the others (crashing in 3D View and the problem with the Data
> >> >>Range
> >> >> >in the Chart Wizard) I still can't execute. Just reported some
> >>bugs
> >> >>on
> >> >> >BugZilla about them.
> >> >> >Thank you very much for the support.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Best regards,
> >> >> >Felipe Viggiano
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Em sáb., 8 de ago. de 2020 às 11:11, Steve (GMail)
> >> >> ><[email protected]> escreveu:
> >> >> >>Hi All,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>I just wanted to say a big thank you to all those who are helping
> >>to
> >> >> >>review the 7.0 Calc Guide. We are very lucky to have such
> >>talented
> >> >> >>individuals helping us out, long may it continue.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>My biggest problem is updating the chapters quickly enough to
> >>keep
> >> >> >>everybody busy!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Regards,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Steve
> >> >> >>
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