Hi Martin, thank you for returning back to the issue!
Meanwhile I've thought a lot about "labor division" in the case of cleaning. Perhaps it would be best if the manual style cleaning (as described on https://github.com/milossramek/translation-scripts/tree/master/odtclean) would become one of the duties of the author, who prepares the published files (but the list of their duties is already quite long now) and preparation of the files in the Cleaned directory by running the script (once a guide is published) would be a task for somebody else (me for now). I think that it should not be among the author's duties, since I think that running a python script on Windows for a non-developer is not an easy task (I would, e. g. install the Windows-for-Linux subsystem and install Ubuntu there :D ). If we agree to add the "Cleaned" directory (in my text below I suggested "Prepared for translation", but "Cleaned is perhaps better), I would create it in the 7.0 version of the Calc guide and Math guide, which are already published, and do both the manual and script cleaning. Milos On 12/21/20 3:37 PM, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > Just reminding of this suggestion by Milos from August 2020. > > +1 > > Lp, m. > > V V čet., 6. avg. 2020 ob 14:39 je oseba Olivier Hallot < > [email protected]> napisala: > >> Forwarding to the documentation mailing list >> >> Important topic. >> >> >> -------- Mensagem encaminhada -------- >> Assunto: [libreoffice-l10n] Suggestion for workflow modification : a new >> directory "Prepared for translation" with "cleaned" files >> Data: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 14:30:14 +0200 >> De: Milos Sramek <[email protected]> >> Para: Libreoffice ln10 <[email protected]> >> >> Hi, >> >> document 'cleaning' has been mentioned recently in several threads. It >> is a necessary step for subsequent translation of the guides to >> different languages. As it is currently done 'on request', I suggest to >> add cleaning as a compulsory step to the workflow (described here: >> >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/UsingAuthorsWebsite >> ). >> >> Currently I put the cleaned files here: >> >> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files?dir=/Shared/SK%20community/Cleaned >> . >> Probably nobody knows about them. >> >> What is cleaning about: >> >> For translation we use the OmegaT tool, which extracts strings for >> translation directly from the document's xml. This means that the >> character formatting tags are visible for her/him (tags in OmegaT are >> abbreviated to <f0>...</f0> or similar). Usually there are too many >> useless tags (tags seem to remain in the code forever, even if >> formatting is removed), which complicates the translation process (too >> many tags, words split by tags to pieces etc). In cleaning all direct >> character formatting is removed (by a python script) which decreases the >> amount of tags to the necessary minimum. >> >> My suggestion: >> >> Add an additional step in the workflow after "Published" (after it in >> order to not to change to current authoring workflow) by adding a new >> directory "Prepared for translation". From there (1) a translator would >> take documents for translation and (2) these documents would be used to >> start a new version of the given Guide. >> >> Who will do that: >> >> I volunteer to take care of the cleaning process. I will also create a >> guide, how to do that and also will place the script to the nextcloud, >> so that eventually somebody else can do that. As a part of the cleaning >> process one has to visually check the documents and change eventual >> direct formatting to the an appropriate character style. >> >> thanks for consideration >> >> Milos >> >> -- >> >> email & jabber: [email protected] >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >> Comunidade LibreOffice >> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >> http://tdf.io/joinus >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> -- email & jabber: [email protected] -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
