Hi Steve

Em 18/12/2020 08:15, Steve Fanning escreveu:
> Thanks for the minutes Olivier and I'm sorry that I couldn't attend the
> meeting to discuss the points below.
> 
> I note that the task to review / update Chapter 13 of the Calc Guide was
> approved by the meeting. Is the assumption that I will perform that
> review? If so, that's fine, but I don't want to step on anybody else's
> toes.

Please be our guest and lead on the topic.

> 
> With regards to the suggestion about reusing and adapting the contents
> in Chapter 12, my gut felling is that Chapter 12 is already complex
> enough. It provides a reasonable introduction to LibreOffice Basic
> macros and goes on to provide more limited information about the other
> available scripting languages (BeanShell, JavaScript and Python). At the
> last issue, further information about working with VBA macros was added.
> I  think that's enough content in one chapter and we would probably be
> better off moving the more complex macros from Chapter 13 to some other
> location, away from the Calc Guide. Happy to discuss further if anybody
> has other views...

I fully agree. +1

Seasons greeting
Olivier


> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On 17/12/2020 19:10, Olivier Hallot wrote:
>> Documentation Team Meeting Minutes December 17th 2020 at 18:00 UTC.
>>
>> Presents: Bala Muthu, Dave Barton, Olivier
>>
>> Telegram Channel
>> https://t.me/joinchat/ALeRuUFCxyZY0wzoddldWQ
>>
>> Live TDF Jitsi Room
>> https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam
>>
>> Completed items:
>>
>> Pending items:
>>      + Change in workflow (DB)
>>      + Objective: rewrite/improve Calc Database functions Help (SF)
>>         + Update on database ranges
>>      + odtclean.py is not working any more on linux
>>      + Contributor guide
>>         + Needs reviews of Peter S on Chap 2.
>>
>> News:
>>
>> Topics and Discussion:
>>
>> - Editorial on Calc Guide Chap 13. (Olivier)
>>     + Chap 13 describe several database function/features accessed thru
>>       macros
>>     + Macros are a necesssary evil to replace custom missing features
>>     + but not in this case, macros listed replace UI (Uno) commands
>>     + turns chapter hard to read, unecessary complexity
>>       + suggest to drop macros and review chap 13
>>       + suggest enhance DB functions description with good examples.
>>       + Suggest to reuse and adapt the contents in Chap 12 Macros (Dave)
>>       + Reuse DB functions contents from GSOD2020 (Steve Fanning, by
>> mail)
>>          + Approved.
>>
>> - Collecting images in Guides (Peter S.)
>>     + No need to be concerned with storage
>>     + Older files can be in archive folder and even deleted
>>       + Cleanup older Guide archive files (Dave)
>>
>> - Our pt_BR experience with matecat.com for translating guides (Olivier)
>>     + comments, do's and don'ts
>>        + matecat.com (open source)
>>           + https://github.com/matecat/MateCat
>>        + Accept ODF files, preserve all formatting
>>        + Automatic translations, surprising hit rate and accuracy.
>>           + Can select industry area of source text
>>           + seems to borrow translation memory from public/open TM's
>>        + Nevertheless requires further review
>>           + spared 90% of the translation work
>>           + some funny mistakes though
>>           + Sometimes get confused with widget labels in sentence.
>>              + "OK" -> "All is good"
>>              + "Help" -> "Rescue"
>>
>> - Contributor Guide (Dave)
>>     + Plan to get chap 1 update in wiki by next meeting (Dave)
>>
>> Meeting ajourned
>>
>> Next meeting : *THURSDAY* January 7th 2021 at 18:00 UTC.
> 

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