Hello, Peter, Regarding the Touch Bar: - if I buy a computer with it (and spend more money), I expect it to bring much joy to the use of my new laptop; - if I am not satisfied with the Bar, I cannot remove it physically from the computer, it stands there and lights up every once in a while, reminding me how well I spent my money; - I could use the 30-day money-back guarantee option, but that one might not be available in my region (and requires some additional effort and potentially even cost on my side).
Regarding the LO UI-type change: - I haven't spent any money on the new UI, it is already present in previous versions, maybe I even played with it before (or have it enabled) and it is already described in all of the documentation; - if I do not like the new interface, I can switch back to the old one (OK, some users with basic computer knowledge might have a problem with that, so they need to be assisted in some way by a wizard or some UI tool); - *if I am not mistaken* - this would only change for users without a user profile, i.e. without previous versions of LO installed - all others would get the UI they used with the old/previous version of LO? So if they are not used to LO and come from MSO, the notebookbar might seem a more logical choice for starting the software for the first time. Of course, there will be users fighting about which UI is better, but ... de gustibus non disputandum est. Lp, m. V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 11:22 je oseba Peter Schofield <psaut...@gmail.com> napisala: > Hello Martin > > I understand your thoughts and do agree that things must move on. However, > the idea of having a Notebookbar UI does worry me a little. > > Apple brought out a Touch Bar on some of the Macs, which was a physical > option not software, but software was involved. Apple are now rethinking > the Touch Bar, according to the news pundits, and it may be completely > dropped because it was not all that successful. Using this reasoning, I > think that a Notebookbar UI may also not be that successful. > > The Standard UI is great to use. > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com > Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > > On 21 May 2022, at 11:14, Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > I do not know about the future, but the TDF board should inform the teams > (esp. the documentation team) at least one version prior of such a change > (if being planned for 7.5/(=8.0?), the LO teams should be informed by the > time of the 7.4 release) - so everyone can prepare accordingly (maybe the > Documentation team will then decide to not work on 7.4 guides but start > rewriting the online help and the chapters of the guides for 7.5/8.0 with > that change in mind - the default gui does not change the functionality > itself, just its accessibility and requires many changed screenshots in > guides, so a lot of work can be done even before 7.5a1 is available, even > today). > > And another thing - there will be a lot of opposition to such a change - > so maybe when released - there should be a guide/wizard at the first start > of the suite to offer and explain/visualize the *two* (not 6 or 8) options > - classic vs. notebookbar. But I can't even imagine the fuss this would > create with help content and documentation, always mentioning the two > possibilities when describing the access to toolbar icons/items ... > > Peter, I understand you - but I think it is inevitable that such a change > would come. And many changes to documentation as well. > > Lp, m. > > V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 09:48 je oseba Peter Schofield < > psaut...@gmail.com> napisala: > >> I keep getting messages about "Bug 135501 - Change the default UI” which >> has raised a question for me and would like some opinion on this. >> >> Being one of the volunteers writing the user guides, would it mean that I >> have to completely update and change the user guides to suit a Notebookbar >> UI ??? >> >> I would like more information on this change to the UI so that I know >> what is going to happen. The comments in the bug report do not really help. >> >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: >> documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
