Thank you Kees Will try it out and see how it all works.
Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team > On 22 May 2022, at 10:03, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: > > Hi Peter > > To use the Notebookbar, you have to choose the option Tabbed. > > Regards, Kees > > Peter Schofield schreef op 22.05.2022 09:47: >> Hello Martin >> I can only agree with your comments. It is just that I am concerned >> about what changes are involved to the user guides. >> One thing I would like to know is how do I set my LibreOffice to using >> the Notebook Bar. I have switched on experimental features and opened >> View - User Interface on the Menu bar, but there is no Notebook Bar >> offered as an option. Yet, in LibreOffice > Preferences > LibreOffice >> > View > Icon Size the Notebook Bar is there as an option. Some help please. >> One thing that I think should be carried out is a spelling correction. >> Change all instances of Notebookbar to the correct spelling of >> Notebook Bar. Definitely does not look good when there are spelling >> errors in the user interface. >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >>> On 21 May 2022, at 18:15, Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net> wrote: >>> Hello, Peter, >>> Regarding the Touch Bar: >>> - if I buy a computer with it (and spend more money), I expect it to bring >>> much joy to the use of my new laptop; >>> - if I am not satisfied with the Bar, I cannot remove it physically from >>> the computer, it stands there and lights up every once in a while, >>> reminding me how well I spent my money; >>> - I could use the 30-day money-back guarantee option, but that one might >>> not be available in my region (and requires some additional effort and >>> potentially even cost on my side). >>> Regarding the LO UI-type change: >>> - I haven't spent any money on the new UI, it is already present in >>> previous versions, maybe I even played with it before (or have it enabled) >>> and it is already described in all of the documentation; >>> - if I do not like the new interface, I can switch back to the old one (OK, >>> some users with basic computer knowledge might have a problem with that, so >>> they need to be assisted in some way by a wizard or some UI tool); >>> - *if I am not mistaken* - this would only change for users without a user >>> profile, i.e. without previous versions of LO installed - all others would >>> get the UI they used with the old/previous version of LO? So if they are >>> not used to LO and come from MSO, the notebookbar might seem a more logical >>> choice for starting the software for the first time. >>> Of course, there will be users fighting about which UI is better, but ... >>> de gustibus non disputandum est. >>> Lp, m. >>> V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 11:22 je oseba Peter Schofield >>> <psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: >>> Hello Martin >>> I understand your thoughts and do agree that things must move on. However, >>> the idea of having a Notebookbar UI does worry me a little. >>> Apple brought out a Touch Bar on some of the Macs, which was a physical >>> option not software, but software was involved. Apple are now rethinking >>> the Touch Bar, according to the news pundits, and it may be completely >>> dropped because it was not all that successful. Using this reasoning, I >>> think that a Notebookbar UI may also not be that successful. >>> The Standard UI is great to use. >>> Regards >>> Peter Schofield >>> psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> >>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >>>> On 21 May 2022, at 11:14, Martin Srebotnjak <mi...@filmsi.net >>>> <mailto:mi...@filmsi.net>> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I do not know about the future, but the TDF board should inform the teams >>>> (esp. the documentation team) at least one version prior of such a change >>>> (if being planned for 7.5/(=8.0?), the LO teams should be informed by the >>>> time of the 7.4 release) - so everyone can prepare accordingly (maybe the >>>> Documentation team will then decide to not work on 7.4 guides but start >>>> rewriting the online help and the chapters of the guides for 7.5/8.0 with >>>> that change in mind - the default gui does not change the functionality >>>> itself, just its accessibility and requires many changed screenshots in >>>> guides, so a lot of work can be done even before 7.5a1 is available, even >>>> today). >>>> And another thing - there will be a lot of opposition to such a change - >>>> so maybe when released - there should be a guide/wizard at the first start >>>> of the suite to offer and explain/visualize the *two* (not 6 or 8) options >>>> - classic vs. notebookbar. But I can't even imagine the fuss this would >>>> create with help content and documentation, always mentioning the two >>>> possibilities when describing the access to toolbar icons/items ... >>>> Peter, I understand you - but I think it is inevitable that such a change >>>> would come. And many changes to documentation as well. >>>> Lp, m. >>>> V V sob., 21. maj 2022 ob 09:48 je oseba Peter Schofield >>>> <psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com>> napisala: >>>> I keep getting messages about "Bug 135501 - Change the default UI” which >>>> has raised a question for me and would like some opinion on this. >>>> Being one of the volunteers writing the user guides, would it mean that I >>>> have to completely update and change the user guides to suit a Notebookbar >>>> UI ??? >>>> I would like more information on this change to the UI so that I know what >>>> is going to happen. The comments in the bug report do not really help. >>>> Regards >>>> Peter Schofield >>>> psaut...@gmail.com <mailto:psaut...@gmail.com> >>>> Technical Writer, LO Documentation Team >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >>>> <mailto:documentation%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org> >>>> Problems? >>>> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >>>> <https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/> >>>> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >>>> <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette> >>>> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >>>> <https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/> >>>> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >>>> <https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy> -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
