Laurie, 

Have you had the prop off recently?  I have found cases where props have been 
refitted out of alignment with the crankshaft.  Proper positioning is with 
cranks horizontal i.e. 2 pistons at TDC and 2 at BDC (doesn’t matter which 
ones) and the prop vertical.   Also , if you do have a bit of prop imbalance 
its always worth removing & refitting at 180 deg, but do recheck tracking as 
well.  

Regarding bracing cables these should be adjusted so that they have no slack, 
but no real tension either, the idea is to maintain the engine in the position 
dictated by the engine mounts, but to restrict the upthrust loads that occur 
with the application of power & prop torque.  In my experience most maintenance 
personnel tend to overtension these cables.  Watch for grounding of the cables 
on the exhausts too.  On GVQ I had to reposition the lower anchor points on the 
firewall by rotating the lugs and securing with a touch of Tig.  Friction of 
the bolts is not enough to hold the lugs against rotation. 

Cheers

JGV

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Ian Mc Phee
Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2015 7:27 PM
To: DOG LIST
Cc: Laurie Hoffman
Subject: Re: [DOG mailing list] Vibrations at certain revs

 

I seem to remember the middle bearing did not get changed at 3000hly but only 
the outer ball ron ends.

 

Actually Think I was having the cross cable under engine too tight so maybe 
adjusting that would help.

 

Ian Mc Phee

Box 657  Byron Bay  NSW  2481  

 

 

 

On 16 July 2015 at 10:46, Will Bignell <[email protected]> wrote:

Are your two cross braces not over tensioned or loose? I've seen them over 
tightened and the rubber hangers being out of alignment leading to vibrations. 
When flying at cruise I've experienced the cable go snap and it changed the 
vibration pattern until I reduced power as a cautionary move as it felt odd.  
Landed to find it had given out a bit. Very hard to spot if shrouded to protect 
from exhaust vibrations. 

Will Bignell 

 


On 16 Jul 2015, at 9:22 am, Ian Williams <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Laurie,

Your prob is interesting.  Could it be a dynamic resonance problem??  I have 
noticed that our rocket does have specific RPM / vibration combinations.  So 
just adjust the RPM accordingly.  Maybe the fact that the engine is rubber 
mounted and uses cables to transfer the engine thrust to the airframe attached 
significantly below the centre of thrust could make a resonance problem 
noticeable.

About 16 years ago I was involved with installing a 4 blade Hoffman prop on our 
Pawnee (a 260Hp O-540). (Reduced noise)  We had a real problem with a dynamic 
resonance where the mags would fall apart, starter motors crap out etc.  A real 
major prob.   We figured that the rotational mass of the wooden prop was much 
lower than the metal prop and more blade area so it kind of fell into place 
that the problem related to the lack of prop inertia.  We obtained a drawing of 
a large counterweight between the prop and the hub, installed it and the 
problem disappeared overnight.  Just like flicking a switch.   

This may be of some help.

 

However a question … I am doing an annual inspection on the Dimona.  The rear 
spring loaded pin securing the tailplane …  its outer case can be rotated .. ie 
is a bit loose.  Has that been a problem with the other Thai Dimona’s  I have 
tried to see how it could be removed ... .any idea’s.    Also the middle 
bearings on each elevator (not threaded) are a bit loose and “click” as they go 
over centre … ie as the elevator goes up and down.   May look at making new 
fittings they push into … again have any of you had to sort this out.  

Best regards

 

Ian Williams

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, 10 July 2015 6:47 p.m.
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [DOG mailing list] Vibrations at certain revs

 

Just to ad to Rob's post. We also installed new plugs.

 


Regards

Laurie Hoffman

 

 

 

 


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From: Rob Thompson <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, 10 July 2015, 16:38
Subject: [DOG mailing list] Vibrations at certain revs

 

G'day All,

On our dimona with a L2000 and Hoffman prop, we have a vibration issue which is 
happening at around 2950rpm in fine pitch at 60kts and 2450rpm in course pitch 
at about the same speed. 

Nothing really has changed recently but the problem has developed over the past 
few months. I put in new carbs but that didn't make any difference.

At full throttle it is climbing brilliantly. 

Anyone else had a problem happen like this? Just seems strange that it would 
develop with no chips or damage to the prop from grass ops.

I am going to hire Nigel's dynamic balancer which seems like the best bet. This 
unit is fantastic for getting your engine/prop running really smooth so 
hopefully this will work. 


Rob Thompson
0429 493828 <tel:0429%20493828> 
Please note that my new email address is [email protected]

 

 

 

 

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