Shawn Walker wrote:
> I understand what you are saying, but the ordering of the vertices is such 
> that the first three vertices (0,1,2) are exactly the same as they were 
> before.  This would be done no matter what order polynomial map you used. 
> So, it seems to me it should be fine.
>

This is the usual FEM approach, but the point as I see it is that a 
vertex should really be a vertex. If it's not, it becomes a slippery 
slope with ad-hoc extensions. It would be nice to come up with a 
solution which is more elegant and extensible than the usual approach.

Garth

> However, to be sure, I can modify the ufc stuff such that the coordinates 
> variable only reads in the first three vertices.  So this would be 
> EXACTLY as it was before.  I would then create a new ufc::cell variable 
> called `map_coordinates' (if you have a better name, please suggest) and 
> this would read in the 6 vertices.  And in Tabulate_Tensor, if higher 
> order is desired, then the `map_coordinates' will be used to compute the 
> FEM matrix.
> 
> This seems safe, though a little redundant.  Of course, one must be 
> careful when creating the higher order mesh .xml file and ensure that the 
> first three vertices correspond to the usual triangle vertices.
> 
> I also want to make sure that the extra `map_coordinates' is available to 
> be modified with a loop in dolfin.  This would be necessary for an ALE 
> method when the mesh is deforming.
> 
> - Shawn
> 
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Anders Logg wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:15:06PM +0100, Garth N. Wells wrote:
>>>
>>> Anders Logg wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure this will work. If you attach 6 vertices to a triangle by
>>>>
>>>>   <triangle index="0" affine="false" v0="0" v1="1" v2="2" v3="4" v4="5" 
>>>> v5="6"/>
>>>>
>>>> then all sorts of things will break (I imagine). A triangle always has
>>>> three vertices.
>>>>
>>> I noticed this too. It would make some things troublesome.
>>>
>>>> The geometry of the triangles is separate.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we could just add extra data which could be "control points" for
>>>> the cell facets? For P2 it would be the edge/face midpoints.
>>>>
>>> I like the idea of defining facet data which would contain the necessary
>>> info.
>> A problem with defining facet data is that the facet numbering is not
>> known a priori. It depends on the algorithm used by DOLFIN to compute
>> the facets from the cells. So we can't store for example a mesh
>> function over the facets since the facet numbering may change.
>>
>> When we read input from VMTK, we need to read facet data (boundary
>> markers) and these are stored relative to the cell to which the facet
>> belongs and the local number of the facet relative to the cell (which
>> is unique).
>>
>> There is an example in data/meshes/aneurysm.xml.gz.
>>
>> -- 
>> Anders
>>
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