Hi Bob

On 18/04/15 22:07, Bob Dunlop wrote:
Hi,

On Sat, Apr 18 at 07:35, Martin Hepworth wrote:
So whats wrong with ssh on its own, or if need a gui x11 tunnelled over ssh
to an x-server on the remote?

Can I also just say Duh?

What's wrong with using X11 or as often known X-windows.  It's a client/
server system designed from day one to allow remote machines to display
graphics on another remote server.  It's the default on most Unix/Linux
boxes, all be it with remote and local systems being the same machine on
todays PCs.

At work I just ssh to a remote box, local net or other side of the world.
Behind the scenes ssh tells the remote where the graphics display is
located.  Then any graphics utility I fire off appears in my local
machine's desktop, fully intergrated, no problem.

Been doing that since 1986 at least.  Remote desktop and the like are just
tools to help Microsoft Windows to catch up with Unix common practice.

If you have firewalls or similar in the way just add -X to your ssh
parameters to create an automatic tunnel.


X through SSH is OK on local network, but I've always found it unusably slow for remote access. And if you want an entire desktop then as far as I know the only pure X option is XDMCP and into Xephyr. Again no good for slow connections as this is both slow and insecure into the bargain (unless you're going to run Xephyr on the remote and tunnel that). And you can't cut and paste to/from Xephyr. Ironically, Windows is better catered for than Linux with X servers that can handle a remote desktop (Xming, Cygwin/X, Mobaxterm, but they are all sensitive to the remote desktop and local video drivers, all handle cut and paste well).

Then there's NX. When I tried this a few years back it was unbelievably fast over a slow link and seemed to be the answer, but seems to have been largely abandoned.

VNC is (IMHO) messy to set up. Certainly with the servers I experimented with you have to define all the resolutions you think you'll need on different ports. But it works well over slow links. I've never had cut/paste work.

Then there's RDP. Fast over slow links, secure. I haven't tried XRDP so don't know if there are other factors, but I think there are good reasons to use it over pure XDMCP (also, should give remote audio, cut and paste).



Terry - here are a few links which indicate you're not alone in the problem you are getting and which may provide a lead:


http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=5305

(see first comment)


http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jimblizzard/archive/2015/02/25/rdp-to-ubuntu-linux-vm-in-azure.aspx

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/plankytronixx/archive/2013/11/12/running-a-remote-desktop-on-a-windows-azure-linux-vm.aspx




Cheers

Tim

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