On Saturday 18 Apr 2015 22:07:26 Bob Dunlop wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Apr 18 at 07:35, Martin Hepworth wrote:
> > So whats wrong with ssh on its own, or if need a gui x11 tunnelled over
> > ssh
> > to an x-server on the remote?
>
> Can I also just say Duh?
Can I just say that I now feel properly put in my place. Why didn't you just
say RTFM and we can all feel nostalgic for the 1970/80s and the Flame wars on
the Newsgroups?
You should also write to Linux Format about this; their latest set of articles
on the Pi include one on Remote access. They don't mention X either (although
they do advocate VNC, which I think is a crock, so maybe they deserve a bit of
criticism).
> What's wrong with using X11 or as often known X-windows. It's a client/
> server system designed from day one to allow remote machines to display
> graphics on another remote server. It's the default on most Unix/Linux
> boxes, all be it with remote and local systems being the same machine on
> todays PCs.
There's nothing wrong with using X11 except:
1. It never occurred to me. This may be because the last time I used X11 for
anything serious it was in conjunction with Cygwin to get access to a
SparcStation. I can't say the performance was particularly scintillating, so
I might have rejected it anyway in favour of RDP, since, unlike the Sun boxes,
modern computers (including the Pi) can run RDP.
2. I need to access the full desktop, not just some graphical utilities. I
have read that this can be done over X, but see below.
3. My recollection is that X is a bit of a faf to get working, due to having
set the DISPLAY environment etc. I'm sure that once it's working, it's very
easy to do, but it was a piece of p**s to get RDP working (until it broke), so
I used it.
4. Performance. This may be only a perception, but I see that Tim has
expressed the same opinion. When I first learned about X some 20 or so years
ago, my understanding was that bandwidth was the main problem, so again I
probably wouldn't have tried it, even if I'd thought of it.
5. I have used RDP in a number of scenarios for years, so I know what it can
do and felt it to be the right approach.
6. I can also access the Pi from a Windows box, should I wish to.
Anyway, rant over. If anyone's interested, I fixed my problem by completely
removing xrdp from the Pi (including a purge) and re-installing it.
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