Please take this thread to the advocacy list (there is one)... As the original poster 
wrote, "this is a technical forum". Please also post any insinuations or commentary 
concerning S$, M$, or [you hope your product goes here]$ to advocacy in future as well.

Thank you.

"We are, after all, professionals". ;-) (Hunter S Thompson)

Bob Beauchemin
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-----Original Message-----
From: Reggie Burnett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 8:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [DOTNET] Disrespect


I apologize to the other members of the list that have been exposed to this
thread and tell you that I intend this to be my last mailing on this thread.

>
> > There is not a person there to be hurt.
>
> Really? Microsoft is an advanced artificial intelligence, devoid of any
> humans at all? This is real news!

You're smarter than that!  Disapproval at company wide decisions does not
have to mean disrespect at individuals inside the company.

>
> > M$ is not a sign of disrespect, it is a sign of disapproval.
>
> No, disapproval is writing opinion pieces in papers, and having
> discussions
> with friends, and posting to your web log. Disrespect is taking
> your beef to
> a technical mailing list with kiddy "M$" and "MicroSloth" and every other
> variation that I've seen over the years.

You are right that those are forms of disapproval but there are tons of
emails that flow through this and other MS-related groups/lists that express
disapproval, either at product pricing or design or other issues.

>
> > Forgive me for being so naive, but I thought this forum and
> others like it
> > was a place where thoughts, ideas, and questions could be exchanged. I
> > guess I was wrong.
>
> Yes, absolutely you're wrong. This is a place where people go to get their
> technical problems answered, and engage in technical discussion.
> Nowhere in
> the list charter does it say "social commentary".

I completely agree that this is a technical forum and, as such, needs to be
focused on answering people problems.  Just yesterday I posted a question
asking why IE 5.01 is required for the .Net runtime to install.  No answers.
I am working on an application right now that I would love to develop in C#
but may not be able to because some of my clients may not be able to install
IE 5.01 Sp2 in order to run the .Net runtime.  Now if there is a valid
technical reason for this, I would like to know.  If this is the famous
marketing engine working to help promote distribution of later versions of
IE, that is arbitrary and means I can't use this cool new system for purely
marketing reasons.  If this list is so tightly strung that I can't grumble a
tiny bit when these types of issues come up, this this list should be moved
to to microsoft.public list server and you guys should be put on payroll.


Reggie

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