On Thu, 2025-09-18 at 09:19 +0000, Rupert Gallagher via dovecot wrote:

     Hello,
     I note the following problem. If the inbox holds many subfolders with
     mail,  thunderbird spends a lot of time on startup.

   Does seem a bit odd to attempt to limit/cripple the server when the flaw
   resides entirely with the client.
   I suggest instead that working to improve TB would be better approach.
   Engaging with the TB folks would probably be a good idea too.
   There may be things you can do on the TB side (make sure to use maildir
   for local storage - remove unnneeded offline folders etc).  It is also
   possible that reducing the number of sub folders could make TB worse,
   since then its index file would get even larger, have more "holes" and
   need manual "compressing" more frequently.  I found these index files got
   really really enormous - far larger than they should, likely as they left
   holes and tried to keep the file mostly append only.
   There were mumbings a long time ago about  them auto "compressing" their
   index file. Still, when I used TB I found I had to periodically stop TB -
   delete all index files (gigantic GB)- start TB -  wait a few minutes and
   things work better.  A work around for poor design for sure but it helped
   tb work a little faster.
   TB is just not a terribly good client inho.
   Alternatvely, switch clients to evolution (or something else) which works
   far better than tb. If some of your users are on mswin, there is outlook I
   guess.
   Either way, it really sounds like the better path for this problem is be
   to move on from TB or at least focus your energy on TB not the imap
   server.
   good luck - let us know how things work out.

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   Gene

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