Hi guys,

I researched a bit on IDEA's capabilities for something like the SWT 
Browser and there is no such thing. Looking for Swing browsers:

   * JavaFX Webview [1], but it seems JavaFX is not fully supported in 
IDEA [2]
   * DJProject [3], but it is not developed since 2011 and probably 
lacks functionality     
   * JxBrowser [4] can do everything we need and looks really good, but 
is commercial. I asked them for an open source license and they do 
provide free licenses to open source products, so that should be no 
problem. Is there a problem with the Saros license when we embed a 
closed-source 3rd party library?

Regards,
Holger


[1] http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/2/webview/jfxpub-webview.htm
[2] http://devnet.jetbrains.com/message/5507484#5507484
[3] http://djproject.sourceforge.net/ns/
[4] http://www.teamdev.com/jxbrowser

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Am 01.09.2014 13:22, schrieb Matthias Bohnstedt:
> Thank you very much for the clarification and the advice, this helps me
> a lot. And soory for writting german in the mailinglist, I just hit the
> “all reply” button and didn’t look twice. My bad.
>
> Greetings Matthias Bohnstedt
>
>
>
> 2014-09-01 10:09 GMT+02:00 Lutz Prechelt <prech...@inf.fu-berlin.de
> <mailto:prech...@inf.fu-berlin.de>>:
>
>     Matthias,
>
>     please observe that this is an English-language mailing list.
>     Björn's German email was a mistake.
>
>     You asked how you should go about understanding the browser-based
>     GUI approach better.
>     Here is a suggestion:
>
>     - talk to Damla Durmaz, she is implementing a simple (without input)
>        case on the Eclipse side right now
>
>     - the browser base component already exists on the Eclipse side
>        (written by Björn Kahlert)
>
>     - have a closer look at how Björns component works (it builds on
>        top of Eclipse's SWT browser component but adds a lot of
>        usage simplification stuff)
>
>     - look at IntelliJ: What does the most suitable IntelliJ (Swing) browser
>        component look like?
>        Here are a few starting points:
>     
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/48249/is-there-a-way-to-embed-a-browser-in-java
>     
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1454652/embed-browser-in-java-based-desktop-application
>
>     - How would one wrap it such that it becomes fully(!) compatible
>        to Björns Eclipse component?
>        If necessary, we will of course modify Björns component to make
>        this easier.
>
>     - When you understand this, come back and explain it to all of us,
>        so we can make a decision together how to proceed.
>
>     Second, you said it was your understanding that parts of the
>     Saros-E GUI were implemented in this browser-based way.
>     No, this is not the case.
>     Björn has built a different application where this is true.
>     But for Saros, we only now start to look into this implementation
>     style -- so there is plenty of free space for you to act in.
>
>        Lutz Prechelt
>
>
>
>
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