On 03.09.2014 06:26, Holger Schmeisky wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I researched a bit on IDEA's capabilities for something like the SWT
> Browser and there is no such thing. Looking for Swing browsers:
>
>     * JavaFX Webview [1], but it seems JavaFX is not fully supported in
> IDEA [2]
>     * DJProject [3], but it is not developed since 2011 and probably
> lacks functionality   
>     * JxBrowser [4] can do everything we need and looks really good, but
> is commercial. I asked them for an open source license and they do
> provide free licenses to open source products, so that should be no
> problem. Is there a problem with the Saros license when we embed a
> closed-source 3rd party library?

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins

And now the "fun" begins ... reading that chapter it is even hard to 
decide if you can develop a simple
Eclipse IDE Plugin using GPL as you are calling Eclipse Code which is 
not licensed under GPL.
>
> Regards,
> Holger
>
>
> [1] http://docs.oracle.com/javafx/2/webview/jfxpub-webview.htm
> [2] http://devnet.jetbrains.com/message/5507484#5507484
> [3] http://djproject.sourceforge.net/ns/
> [4] http://www.teamdev.com/jxbrowser
>
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> Am 01.09.2014 13:22, schrieb Matthias Bohnstedt:
>> Thank you very much for the clarification and the advice, this helps me
>> a lot. And soory for writting german in the mailinglist, I just hit the
>> “all reply” button and didn’t look twice. My bad.
>>
>> Greetings Matthias Bohnstedt
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-09-01 10:09 GMT+02:00 Lutz Prechelt <prech...@inf.fu-berlin.de
>> <mailto:prech...@inf.fu-berlin.de>>:
>>
>>      Matthias,
>>
>>      please observe that this is an English-language mailing list.
>>      Björn's German email was a mistake.
>>
>>      You asked how you should go about understanding the browser-based
>>      GUI approach better.
>>      Here is a suggestion:
>>
>>      - talk to Damla Durmaz, she is implementing a simple (without input)
>>         case on the Eclipse side right now
>>
>>      - the browser base component already exists on the Eclipse side
>>         (written by Björn Kahlert)
>>
>>      - have a closer look at how Björns component works (it builds on
>>         top of Eclipse's SWT browser component but adds a lot of
>>         usage simplification stuff)
>>
>>      - look at IntelliJ: What does the most suitable IntelliJ (Swing) browser
>>         component look like?
>>         Here are a few starting points:
>>      
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/48249/is-there-a-way-to-embed-a-browser-in-java
>>      
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1454652/embed-browser-in-java-based-desktop-application
>>
>>      - How would one wrap it such that it becomes fully(!) compatible
>>         to Björns Eclipse component?
>>         If necessary, we will of course modify Björns component to make
>>         this easier.
>>
>>      - When you understand this, come back and explain it to all of us,
>>         so we can make a decision together how to proceed.
>>
>>      Second, you said it was your understanding that parts of the
>>      Saros-E GUI were implemented in this browser-based way.
>>      No, this is not the case.
>>      Björn has built a different application where this is true.
>>      But for Saros, we only now start to look into this implementation
>>      style -- so there is plenty of free space for you to act in.
>>
>>         Lutz Prechelt
>>
>>
>>
>>
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