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George -

OK. The 1.5k, 1W resistor was original in the later version T-4XC. Early versions had a 15k ohm relay coil that was failure prone. When the early version relay was replaced with the "standard" 2.5k ohm coil relay, you had to add the resistor. Sounds like someone replaced a "late" relay with another one and thought they had to add the resistor. Only one is needed!! :-)

Glad you were able to figure it out, and thanks for letting me know. Alway like to hear success stories!

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>



George Runyan wrote:
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Hello Garey,

I am reporting back to you on the Drake C Line with the tune/CW problem. I
repaired the unit. A capacitor on the circuit board between the V10 and V9
was unsoldered. Why, I am not sure. Also my friend had added a 1.5K in
series with V 10 plate pin 6. Again not sure why? There is a 1.5K already in
series in that line up by the relay.

Rig is now working nicely. It will go on the Drake List or E-Bay for Don's
wife. I am in hopes of finding a home around San Diego where I live.
Thanks for your time and help my friend.

Best Regards,

George
WB6YEC

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George -

OK, if you have the tone, then the likely culprits are C98 (part of the Twist-Lok electrolytic) which is quite possibly bad by now, leaky C99 or CR16, or maybe a low bias supply voltage, although that usually shows first as an inability to set Final idle current. C107, the "other" side of the Twist-Lok cap can also be a culprit, usually showing as a "backwave" on CW, i.e., tone not shut off completely between code elements.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>



George Runyan wrote:
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Thanks Gary. I think you have pointed me in the right direction. I have a
tone until the carrier drops out. I had swapped the 12AX7's but no fix.
I will look deeper into the circuit.

Best Regards,

George
WB6YEC
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George -

Check to make sure the DELAY pots are set to mid-range, and that the VOX gain is turned "up" enough. ANTI-VOX can also cause this if set too high. IF this is all correct, you might have a tone oscillator not
running.
The tone oscillator (phase shift network around the mic amp [12AX7]) may not be running. The "speed-up" network for CW (CR17, C115, R107) pulls the carrier in momentarily, but drops out almost immediately because the tone isn't there. If it's not, you won't have any sidetone either... Try swapping the 12AX7 V9. If you don't have a spare, just swap with V1 to check. The tone is generated in V9a, amplified in V9b, V1A and V10a, then rectified by CR16, integrated in C99 to turn on V10b to close the relay.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B & C-Line Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>



George Runyan wrote:
I have a C line that will not show me the output in the tune position. Momentarily shows output in CW. Puts out nicely in SSB when speech applied.

I tried the 6FQ7 and adjusting VOX. I pulled the relay and cleaned with card stock. Any help? Thanks for the help.

George

WB6YEC

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