Wow Evan,

That is pretty much what I observed with mine for drift and it is legitimate 
drift since I set the calibrator to ON and listened to the signal shift in 
pitch significantly over time. From a cold start I was seeing roughly 500Hz of 
drift by the digital readout.  I also have a fan and it seemed to take a long 
time to finally settle down.

Like you, I did not test it with transmitting which would heat it up and cool 
it down and add more variables to the mix.

Since I added the DAFC it seems totally solid with no observable drift at all.  
The DAFC from Conny has the advantage that it is already built and tested and 
installs out of the way using an existing screw hole.

I really wanted to build one but I found it hard to track down a PCB and locate 
all of the parts for any of the available designs that I could find and then I 
would have faced trying to figure out how and where to connect it and I got 
lazy and took the "easy" way out!!!  ;-)

73,
Mike WA3WOM

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: K9sqg 
  To: [email protected] 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:36 AM
  Subject: [Drakelist] Drake 7 line drift


  Fellow Drake Enthusiasts, 


  The discussion of the VFO stabilizers prompted me to describe what I have 
observed about 7 line PTOs over the past 25 years or so.



  At the risk of offending, I would like to express some observations I have 
made through tests of my own equipment, TR-7s (over a dozen or so), TR-7As 
(three), R7s (two), and R7A (one).  My experiences have indicated two groups or 
classes, if you will, of drift characteristics.  One set of equipment appears 
to drift well under 50 hz per hour, while the other set can drift 100-200 hz 
per hour.  Stabilization varies from a few hours to almost 24 hours.  Note that 
I can't be precise since (1) I wasn't using an external counter with known 
accuracy, (2) the resolution/display of the DR7 is 100 hz, and (3) I didn't 
make detailed records of all the equipment for archive purposes, from my 
initial tests.  Having said that, let me present one record I did make recently 
of one of my TR-7As.  Frequency was set via the PTO dial approximately midway 
between the next highest and next lowest 100 hz readouts.  The times are Zulu 
and the frequency was on 40 meters, normal ambient room temperature, from a 
cold start.  No transmit cycles were used.  A cooling fan was used to exhaust 
air from the rear of the rig.


  1340 hrs  7258.0 kc
  1348  7258.1
  1410  7258.2
  1425  7258.3
  1458  7258.4
  1541  7258.5
  1551  7258.5
  1627  7258.5
  1726  7258.6
  1838  7258.6
  2352   7258.7
  0733  7258.9
  1208  7258.9
  1343  7258.9
  1421  7258.9
  1528  7258.9
  1824  7258.9


  From the above observational data, you can see that the PTO did eventually 
stabilize after about 18 hours or so, for the given TR-7A, in receive only, no 
transmit cycles.  You can see that the initial drift was about 200 hz per hour 
for the first three hours.  The other "class" of PTOs drifts substantially less 
and stabilizes sooner.  I have not done any investigation to see if this 
observational data correlates with serial numbers on the rigs.  In comparison, 
I have observed that the RV-75 external VFO keeps drift well under the 100 hz 
resolution of the DR-7 for days at a time, how much I don't know.


  This email is for informational purposes only and is not meant to offend 
anybody.  I realize your experiences are likely to be different and I present 
mine for what they are worth.


  Have a great week and enjoy those Drakes.


  73,


  Evan, K9SQG







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