Richard Knoppow wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. (Tony) Stalls"
<[email protected]>
Hello all...
I'm a newbie to the list and this is my first message to the group,
but I've corresponded to a few individuals privately, mostly because
I have the wisdom to know what I don't know. The fact is that I'm in
the process of duplicating my TR7 rig from the 1980's and from the
day I broke open all those new factory sealed Drake boxes way back
then until I replaced it, it functioned trouble-free, so what do I
know about stuff that goes wrong or fixing it? (Answer: Not much!)
I did share the remedy Ron Baker applied to my recently acquired TR7
that in retrospect I should have posted to the group. At the time,
as far as I knew, it was knowledge and would have been just a lot of
QRN. I won't be so concerned from now on.
Far be it for me, a newcomer, to criticize how the list is run, but
(here it comes) I don't understand why there's a response to both an
individual and to the list. I realize that some may subscribe to a
daily digest and maybe the thought is the redundancy is so they'll
get their reply right away, but why burden the real-time members with
duplicate mailings?
Based on a time I was getting a hundred or so mailings decades ago
from several discussion lists, many of them duplicates, I'd vote for
the option to reply to the list, or to the individual at the
respondent's option.
73!
Tony Stalls, K4KYO
Arlington, VA
I think the reply function is set up by the list administrator but
it may vary with the mail client. In Outlook Express if I choose
"reply" for this list my message goes only to the original poster, not
the list. If I choose "reply all" my message goes to both original
poster and the list unless I edit the To field to eliminate the
original poster.
I belong to other lists that work this way but the majority of
them are set up so that "reply" goes only to the list and "reply all"
goes to both list and original poster. That can be edited if one
wishes to reply off list. I much prefer the latter set up but the
administrators of the lists using the former defend their choice. I
have learned to be careful to see who is getting replys and tailor
them as required. It did take me a while to figure out what was going
on since all of the lists subscribed to first used the first method,
i.e., "reply" went to the list.
I also agree about the second method sometimes providing help to
the orignal poster that does not go to the list archive if one is
kept. I think the arrangement of requiring "reply all" to reply to a
list can reduce the value of the list as a forum for mutual discussion
of subjects and can also result in multiple messages to the original
posters, or to every participant in a particular post in some lists.
IMO this is counter to the whole idea of a mail reflector. However,
the list owners are the ones to decide and I have just learned to work
with whatever is there.
Richard -
We discussed the 'Reply To' situation on this list some time ago. I at
least found it interesting, since the 'authority' was "that was the the
way it was done, from the 'beginning'". I have to admit, it does gain
some support in that just about every email client offers both "Reply"
and "Reply All", so ... I've been using "e-mail" since about 1975 on
ARPANET, and this is the first time it has been questioned! :-) Kind
of like 'reply AFTER quoted material'. So there are reasons for it to
be this way.
Unfortunately, this type of 'list' really works better if BOTH are
reversed from the norm. You can see most contributions to a subject,
AND they end up in the archives. Coming in in the middle of a thread,
you can read the latest contribution right at the top, and if you need
further context or want to see what went before (assuming you haven't
already read it as it was added, you can scroll down.
The WORST situation is if there is a combination of TOP and BOTTOM adds,
and I usually just skip those! :-)
By the way, 'cross-posting' (sending one message to six different lists
with one email) is frowned upon by most list managers. It causes all
sorts of management problems when the message includes a list that only
some or none of the other list members subscribe to. When THEY Reply
All bounce messages are generated, which are then sometimes sent to the
list again, which ...
I screwed up the other day by sending a message to an individual with an
attachment, AND copying it to the list. 'Most' lists just strip off
the attachment and pass the message portion through. Not this one! I
get an automated 'bounce' message that says the message is being 'held
for moderator approval', with a link to just cancel the message. At
least Thom didn't have to attend to it!!
Bottom line, 'Nothin's Ever Easy'. :-)
73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA
Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>
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