Hummm, the Noise Blanker on my R4C (unmodified) seems to work better at 
eliminating the noise I have around my house better than my Icom IC-775DSP 
which is a great radio with IF-DSP so I would say my unmodified R4C works very 
well.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Don Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Wanted 4NB Noise Blanker

KO7I RESPONSE - "The CW roofing filter is particularly bad... but the 4NB is
good..."

SAY WHAT? I could not disagree with you more. 

A unmodified R-4C has a Narrow Spaced Dynamic Range of 58dB while the
Sherwood modified R-4C has a dynamic range of 84dB. So in affect what you
have just said is that having a noise blanker that works is more important
than having your receiver blown away by adjacent QRM. I'll take the roofing
filter thank you. :-)

FWIW, the mod's to my "Sherwood R-4C" do allow you to use the standard 6kHz
front end filter. The 4NB noise blanker has only been marginally successful,
at best, even when I revert to the standard filters. 

Don Jones KO7i

Message: 1
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 16:26:07 -0500
From: Garey Barrell <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Wanted 4NB Noise Blanker
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Don -

You answered your own question/statement. I believe the words 'heavily
modified' were tossed around! :-)

The Sherwood mods essentially render the 4NB useless, as you have
discovered. The CW roofing filter is particularly bad, as it narrows the
noise bandwidth seen by the NB, and delays pulses through it so they no
longer match up with the blanking pulses.

The NB is very effective as some have stated, when used with the original
receiver topology. Like so much in the world of RF and electronics in
general, a receiver is a 'system'. The original design was optimized (within
cost constraints) as a whole. Anything that alters that design takes the
risk that it 'may' alter that basic, optimized design, 'possibly' improving
one characteristic. Unfortunately the characteristic it improves almost
always causes another characteristic to decline, perhaps obviously,
otherwise not so much.

The basic Drake NB is the same design from the R-4A through the R-7, and
most find them VERY effective on high level, short duty cycle impulse noise.
As soon as the noise pulses are 'stretched', either by source
characteristics or group delay through filters, the effectiveness drops off
quickly.

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>



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