Dennis -

The best troubleshooting tool around for 'intermittent' problems. We used to be able to buy Freon in cans that was the best and coldest, but no more. The stuff sold today isn't quite as fast, but works. A 'tiny' Freon shot would form frost on a part!! :-)

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
<www.k4oah.com>


Dennis Monticelli wrote:
If the problem is an intermittant connection somewhere (i.e. a bad solder joint) the point application of heat or cold can change the problem (either aggravate or improve) thus allowing you to isolate the troublesome region. Have you tried the point application of cold spray? Often those cans come with a needle tip.
Dennis AE6C

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Garey Barrell <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Steve -

    NONE of the T-4X(any) had the low-pass filter on the output of the PTO.  
Only the receivers
    used the filter, and only in version 2 of the R-4A and up.

    It would be OK to just bypass the LP filter in the receiver for testing 
purposes.   Also,
    don't gloss over the possibility of a bad, (cracked?), or just noisy 
resistor at R49.  Or even
    poor solder on those associated connections.

    Also, don't overlook the possibility of erratic or intermittent operation 
of the BAND
    oscillator (listen at 18.1 MHz on 40M).

    Possible other resistors associated with V8 are noisy.  Since you have no 
jitter in TRANSCEIVE
    (XMTR control) the problem is in the BAND, PTO or PreMixer, as these are 
all disabled in XMTR
    mode.


    73, Garey - K4OAH
    Glen Allen, VA

    Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
    and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
    <www.k4oah.com <http://www.k4oah.com/>>


    Steve Wedge wrote:

        I'm going to have to look again.  I did swap the VR tube.

        Something Garey mentioned made me check the T-4XB schematic.  If that 
schematic is
        accurate, Drake put the filter inside the PTO at some point or just for 
the T-4XB.  I'm
        suspecting this was done for all PTO's at some point, as I couldn't 
imagine Drake building
        different versions of the PTO at the same time (of course, not 
everything follows what I
        or anyone else would consider logical...).  This could allow me to try 
temporarily
        bypassing the filter board.  I did notice that shielded cable went 
directly to the PTO
        when I removed it.  Given these differences, it also looks like I'll be 
ripping the
        receiver apart (again!) to put the original PTO back in.

        Arrrggggghhhhh...



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