My bad.

Why did they use six different components?  Does each R/C "set" alter the phase 
a set amount?

W1ES


-----Original Message-----
>From: Garey Barrell <[email protected]>
>Sent: Nov 2, 2011 10:27 AM
>To: Steve Wedge <[email protected]>
>Cc: Mark Nace <[email protected]>, "Michael A. Kelly" <[email protected]>, 
>[email protected]
>Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Side Tone Adjustment for TR4CW Possible?
>
>Steve -
>
>Nope...   The large section of the filter cap is additional decoupling 
>of the B+ for the low level audio stages, (V9), and the small section is 
>the cathode bypass for the VOX Amp, (V10a).   C110, 111 and 112, along 
>with R97, R98 and R99 form a phase shift network at the frequency of 
>oscillation.  There are plenty of formulas for calculating values for 
>any reasonable frequency on the internet.  ALL six pieces form the 
>network, you can't just change one or two!  :-)   There is a limit to 
>what you can do with the T-4X, because the audio tone is applied to the 
>MIC input for TUNE mode (whistling into the microphone) and so has to be 
>within the audio passband of the transmit filters.  The tone is also 
>used to drive the VOX, detected and integrated to control the 6EV7.
>
>The TR-4 series is a little different.  It doesn't use the tone for 
>TUNE, only for SIDETONE and VOX.  It is generated in the same way, C180, 
>C181 and C182, along with R126, 127 and 128.
>
>--
>73, Garey - K4OAH
>St Charles, IL
>
>Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
>and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
><www.k4oah.com>
>
>
>Steve Wedge wrote:
>> I've thought about doing this in my Twins.  Now that I've got a few extra 
>> transmitters, this might be a good time to experiment.  On the T-4X, I 
>> believe half the can electrolytic is part of the sidetone r-c circuit.
>>
>> Steve, W1ES/4
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mark Nace<[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Nov 1, 2011 10:14 PM
>>> To: "Michael A. Kelly"<[email protected]>,[email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Side Tone Adjustment for TR4CW Possible?
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>> I think it's an audio phase-shift oscillator, so guess you would need to 
>>> change
>>> some of the R-C values to get a lower freq. 
>>>
>>> Others will give better thoughts I am sure. 
>>> 73
>>> Mark
>>> N5KAE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Michael A. Kelly<[email protected]>
>>>> To:[email protected]
>>>> Sent: Tue, November 1, 2011 8:49:00 PM
>>>> Subject: [Drakelist] Side Tone Adjustment for TR4CW Possible?
>>>>
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> I had a 12AV6 tube (V2) go soft and after replacing it the "chirpy"
>>>> audio for the side tone went away, (no chirp on the transmitted
>>>> signal, just on my end) but the new side tone pitch is higher than I
>>>> prefer.  Is there an way to adjust the side tone audio to get it down
>>>> in the 700-750 Hz range? (not volume, but pitch)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Michael N4MAK
>>>>
>>>>


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