In that case I am thrilled with the frequency that it is by default and am 
getting used to the pitch with each new CW QSO.  :-)

Thanks for the information. Unless there was a potentiometer some where that 
could be easily adjusted and contemplated in original design by the engineers 
at R L Drake, I would not change it anyway. 

Again thanks Guys. 

Michael - N4MAK

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On Nov 2, 2011, at 13:33, Mark Nace <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's it, and whatever frequency you get is what you get on the regen. 
> Mark
> 
> From: Steve Wedge <[email protected]>; 
> To: <[email protected]>; 
> Cc: Mark Nace <[email protected]>; Michael A. Kelly <[email protected]>; 
> <[email protected]>; 
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Side Tone Adjustment for TR4CW Possible? 
> Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:22:44 PM 
> 
> My bad.
> 
> Why did they use six different components?  Does each R/C "set" alter the 
> phase a set amount?
> 
> W1ES
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Garey Barrell <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Nov 2, 2011 10:27 AM
> >To: Steve Wedge <[email protected]>
> >Cc: Mark Nace <[email protected]>, "Michael A. Kelly" <[email protected]>, 
> >[email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Side Tone Adjustment for TR4CW Possible?
> >
> >Steve -
> >
> >Nope...  The large section of the filter cap is additional decoupling 
> >of the B+ for the low level audio stages, (V9), and the small section is 
> >the cathode bypass for the VOX Amp, (V10a).  C110, 111 and 112, along 
> >with R97, R98 and R99 form a phase shift network at the frequency of 
> >oscillation.  There are plenty of formulas for calculating values for 
> >any reasonable frequency on the internet.  ALL six pieces form the 
> >network, you can't just change one or two!  :-)  There is a limit to 
> >what you can do with the T-4X, because the audio tone is applied to the 
> >MIC input for TUNE mode (whistling into the microphone) and so has to be 
> >within the audio passband of the transmit filters.  The tone is also 
> >used to drive the VOX, detected and integrated to control the 6EV7.
> >
> >The TR-4 series is a little different.  It doesn't use the tone for 
> >TUNE, only for SIDETONE and VOX.  It is generated in the same way, C180, 
> >C181 and C182, along with R126, 127 and 128.
> >
> >--
> >73, Garey - K4OAH
> >St Charles, IL
> >
> >Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
> >and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
> ><www.k4oah.com>
> >
> >
> >Steve Wedge wrote:
> >> I've thought about doing this in my Twins.  Now that I've got a few extra 
> >> transmitters, this might be a good time to experiment.  On the T-4X, I 
> >> believe half the can electrolytic is part of the sidetone r-c circuit.
> >>
> >> Steve, W1ES/4
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Mark Nace<[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Nov 1, 2011 10:14 PM
> >>> To: "Michael A. Kelly"<[email protected]>,[email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Side Tone Adjustment for TR4CW Possible?
> >>>
> >>> Mike,
> >>> I think it's an audio phase-shift oscillator, so guess you would need to 
> >>> change
> >>> some of the R-C values to get a lower freq. 
> >>>
> >>> Others will give better thoughts I am sure. 
> >>> 73
> >>> Mark
> >>> N5KAE
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: Michael A. Kelly<[email protected]>
> >>>> To:[email protected]
> >>>> Sent: Tue, November 1, 2011 8:49:00 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Drakelist] Side Tone Adjustment for TR4CW Possible?
> >>>>
> >>>> Howdy,
> >>>>
> >>>> I had a 12AV6 tube (V2) go soft and after replacing it the "chirpy"
> >>>> audio for the side tone went away, (no chirp on the transmitted
> >>>> signal, just on my end) but the new side tone pitch is higher than I
> >>>> prefer.  Is there an way to adjust the side tone audio to get it down
> >>>> in the 700-750 Hz range? (not volume, but pitch)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Michael N4MAK
> >>>>
> >>>>
> 
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