Because this subject has been discussed so many times and there is so much 
interest, I thought I'd bring Paul Larona, KB6MIP who worked for HP and cleaned 
and repaired equipment.

You can read his comments below, to correct my comments the soap wasn't Simple 
Green but "Zoom".


From: Paul Lorona [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 08:35 AM
To: John Hudson
Subject: Re: FW: [Drakelist] Baked Drakes

    Hi Johnny -

    I wonder who this person reminiscing was? I clearly remember doing exactly 
what was described, except for the distilled water part. I recall using plain 
old tap water. That was back between 1983 and 1993 for me, at the "new" HP 
Fullerton office on Manhattan Avenue, just northeast of what was back then 
Griswolds Hotel. The old HP building is now the Albertsons / SavOn Corporate 
HQ, I think.

    Our "wash rack" at HP Fullerton was nothing more elaborate than an enclosed 
area maybe 4'W x 3'D x 4'H, with hot and cold water taps and a spigot / hose 
assembly at one end. It had a turntable in it, and as I recall we had some sort 
of heavy duty de-greaser we called "Zoom" in a 55 gallon drum with a hand pump 
that we used.

    The wash rack also had two heating units. One was a simple oven that had a 
rather crude thermostat that held the temperature within somewhere between 150 
and 180 degrees F. This is where we dried the stuff we washed. The other was an 
"environmental chamber," which was basically a much better insulated and sealed 
oven with humidity control and a much better temperature setting and regulating 
method. We used the "chamber" to heat run equipment while powered up, to see if 
things would fail in hot environments. I want to think the "chamber" ran a bit 
cooler ... somewhere between 100 and 120 degrees F to stress test operating 
equipment.

    And yeah ... things with transformers of high-voltage power systems usually 
got baked for at least a weekend, usually a week if the customer wasn't in a 
hurry.

    I couldn't even guess how many pieces of electronic equipment I ran through 
the wash rack and oven ... dozens, maybe hundreds. Customers would send us 
stuff that was horrible ... rat nests, dust and crud so thick you couldn't see 
individual components on the circuit boards, CRTs that were dim to the point of 
being useless for the crud built up between the glass and the transparent 
protective covers ... and it would all go back looking sparkling and almost new.

    Somewhere in my pile of HP memorabilia I think I have a letter from a 
customer thanking me for "resurrecting" an old logic analyzer by cleaning it 
up. I washed logic analyzers, data generators, oscilloscopes, DC power systems, 
RF generators, spectrum analyzers ... all kinds of stuff. And after hours I was 
known to wash the off the odd MICOR or MASTR II as well <winks>.

    Those were good times.

    Thanks for the memory poke. That was fun.

    Paul


I thought you'd get a kick out of this string of comments..

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Tanton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:34 AM
To: John Hudson; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [Drakelist] Baked Drakes

...and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the key reason for the transformers 
being OK, related to the distilled water!!! Surely that says something about 
other, non-hermetic components as well.

Ed Tanton

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Hudson
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:15 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] Baked Drakes

As we all know this has been a hot topic many times on the list. One of my good 
friends worked at HP Fullerton cleaning, repairing, and aligning test 
equipment. The process was, as described prior, blowing out dust, removing 
whose items that water would damage, using a solution of simple green under 
pressure washer, scrubbing with brush as needed,  then rinsing with distilled 
water, air hose, and baking at heat under 200 degrees for a week.  He said 
transformers were not a problem for this process.

It would be awesome to find photo's or documentation of this process and placed 
in our document files.

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Paul J. Lorona

"El Coyote Mas Grande y Viejo"

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