I tried one, but to my ears, there's too much hiss with some high-end 
headphones with the AF control at low settings and even full CCW.  I've tried 
the LM383, LM380, and TDA2002.  The hiss can be reduced with an in-line 
attenuator, then running the AF control at a higher level to compensate.  I 
would rather just deal with the root issue and solve it.

Paul, W9AC
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kc9...@aol.com 
  To: w...@arrl.net ; drakelist@zerobeat.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4C Hum and audio transistor


  Why not install a Sherwood audio kit ...I have one in mine..works FB
  73,
  Lee

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Paul Christensen <w...@arrl.net>
  To: drakelist <drakelist@zerobeat.net>
  Sent: Wed, Oct 31, 2012 2:37 pm
  Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R4C Hum and audio transistor


  Max,

  I'll get crucified for saying this, but that class A transistor stage was 
poorly designed -- and I think we can dispense with the "but they didn't have 
cost-effective transistor technology back thirty years ago" as an excuse.  A 
two-transistor complementary-symmetry PP pair running class AB and a moderate 
amount of negative feedback would have sounded substantially better, and 
produced much less heat.  

  As an example, look at the Marantz, Sansui, Kenwood, and other mid-fi 
Japanese audio amplifiers being produced during the same period.  Those 
designs, or a variant, could easily have been leveraged into the R-4C.  
Eliminate the audio output transformer and tap the symmetry pair mid-point, 
then couple with 500+ uF of series coupling C.  I don't know what Drake's cost 
was for the audio output transformer, but I have to believe the production cost 
difference between the transformer and an extra audio output transistor, and 
surrounding passive parts would have been reasonably minimal.

  I jettisoned the R-4C AF stage after the volume control and won't be going 
back.

  Paul, W9AC
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Max Cotton 
    To: drakelist@zerobeat.net 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:10 PM
    Subject: [Drakelist] R4C Hum and audio transistor


    I have a very nice R4C it had a hum with bad audio distortion so I decided 
to investigate, whilst taking it apart I noticed that if I touched the noise 
blanker the hum would alter, I removed the NB board and the hum was still 
there, I found eventually that the audio transistor had desoldered itself, do 
they really run that hot? so I resolded the wires, now the radio does not work 
anything like as well and has a high amount of white noise, has that audio 
transistor died and if so where do I get a new one, is there an equivalent for 
that power transistor?
    73, Max M0GHQ

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