The comment about the sideband filter in the TR 3 is not to be passed over
lightly. If you have a problem there, you are in deep trouble. I carefully
took the surrounding shield off my problem filter and repaired it, then put
it together again. I was lucky I didn't break something.

All the other comments, concerning historic equipment, TR 3 as a poor CW
rig, etc, are spot on.
Buy it anyway! These things keep us from going brain dead using multi-band
CB equipment.

73, Bill, VE3AUI
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:17:35 -0500
> From: Al Parker <[email protected]>
> To: lane denune <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
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> Hi,
>         The deal "killer" in the TR-3 is the SB filter.  They often go bad
> on
> one sideband, still get some thru, but way low.  Check output on 20m and
> on 15m, they should be close, and above 125 watts out.  Actual value
> could be more (hopefully), but will depend upon alignment.  Normally 15m
> output will be a little less than on 20m, but not more than say 20 watts
> less, if the final tubes are reasonably good.  You should be able to
> load up to about the same plate current on both bands.
>         Other than that possible problem, the TR-3 can be a good rig for
> SSB
> operation, usually at a good price, also.  S-meter often seems stingy,
> just turn up the AF gain if needed, signals are there.  Definitely check
> out the p.s. and replace the bias filter cap at least.
> 73,
>
> Al, W8UT
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> worth doing as simply messing about in boats"
> Ratty, to Mole
>
> On 12/11/2012 12:09 AM, lane denune wrote:
> >   Hi Guys ; Considering a fully functional TR-3 from the owner of 15yrs.
> > I've been invited to try it on the air at his shack before I take it.
> > Being a relative newbie to Drake equipment, is there any particular
> > areas to consider with the TR3 other than the obvious and general
> > operating condition?
> >   I don't recall anything negative in particular about this vintage
> > radio. I will upgrade the power supply and finals..Anything come to mind?
> >      Thanks 73 de n8aft.
> >
> >
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:12:38 -0500
> From: Lee Hiers <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
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> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM,
> <[email protected]<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> Being a relative newbie to Drake equipment, is there any particular areas
> > to consider with the TR3 other than the obvious and general operating
> > condition?
> > ?I don't recall anything negative in particular about this vintage radio.
>
>
> For one, it's a terrible CW radio...if that matters to you.
>
> 73 de Lee
> --
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:43:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: John King <[email protected]>
> To: Lee Hiers <[email protected]>,    "[email protected]"
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> Should you buy a TR3? I think the answer should be given after determining
> what he plans to do with it. One reason to purchase a Drake TR3 is the
> historic value to the hobby.I have been licensed for almost 54 years and
> have grown with the hobby from 6AG7/807 tube transmitter and Hallicrafters
> S40A receiver. They were wonderful for the purpose for which they were
> built and intended to been used. They are not my gear that I use regularly,
> but they bring back wonderful memories. I have one hundred of more radios
> from 1940 until present. I am NOT A COLLECTOR but I accumulate tube type
> radios of all manufacturers because of what they were and what they still
> are. Swan was pioneer in the transceiver field and did a great job from the
> SW 175 and continued for many years, even after being bought out by Cubic
> Communications.
>
>
> The TR3 is historic because it was R.L. Drake's FIRST transceiver. I HAVE
> A TR3 THAT I BOUGHT REASONABLY OFF EBAY IN NON WORKING CONDITION AND VERY
> DIRTY. Today it is a nice looking and working radio. Do I use it
> everyday....NO!! WHY? I have the first model receiver that Drake built, the
> Drake 1A serial number 518 of 1000 built. When built, it was arguably the
> best receiver made in its' day( I also own a Collins 75A1, 75A2, and 75A4,
> for comparison). l am not bragging, just pointing out my perspective. I own
> a Drake 2A. Drake 2B, TR4 (that I use almost daily for net operation, R4,
> T4X,R4B,R4C,and T4XC and a great Drake L4B amp. No, they are not the
> $10,000.00+, Icom or the latest Kenwood, Orion or other solid state rig.
>
>
> The TR3 basically popularized the use of transceivers. There are many hams
> today who may not be able to operate separates. Other companies had gotten
> into the transceiver production, but not as affordable and basic as the TR3.
>
> My suggestion is that if you expect an almost "owner inability" rig to
> repair, digital readout with 3,000 memories, 65 push buttons, DON'T BUY the
> TR3, BUT "SOME DAY' you might wish you could find one to buy.?
>
> This is not intended to start a THREAD, it is just my opinion. If anyone
> wants to attack my opinion, don't bother the reflector with it, feel free
> to reply DIRECTLY to me.? 73, John, K5PGW
>
> ? ?
>
>
>
> ?<[email protected]>
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> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Being a relative newbie to Drake equipment, is there any particular areas
> to consider with the TR3 other than the obvious and general operating
> condition?
> >?I don't recall anything negative in particular about this vintage radio.
>
> For one, it's a terrible CW radio...if that matters to you.
>
> 73 de Lee
> --
> Lee Hiers, AA4GA
>
> www.aa4ga.com
>
>
> Submit your totals to the unofficial QRP DXCC standings - go to?
> http://www.aa4ga.com/p/qrp-dxcc.html?for more info!
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:26:48 -0600
> From: David Assaf III <[email protected]>
> To: John King <[email protected]>
> Cc: Lee Hiers <[email protected]>,    "[email protected]"
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> Hear, Hear!.  I agree with John.  What  we do with these old radios vary
> with the number owned and sold: endless.  But for me, I enjoy the
> simplicity and the warmth that using a piece of history gives me.  Have a
> few radios, the old tube ones are the favorite.
> I say go for it and fix it and clean it and learn to love it.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:43 PM, John King <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Should you buy a TR3? I think the answer should be given after
> determining
> > what he plans to do with it. One reason to purchase a Drake TR3 is the
> > historic value to the hobby.I have been licensed for almost 54 years and
> > have grown with the hobby from 6AG7/807 tube transmitter and
> Hallicrafters
> > S40A receiver. They were wonderful for the purpose for which they were
> > built and intended to been used. They are not my gear that I use
> regularly,
> > but they bring back wonderful memories. I have one hundred of more radios
> > from 1940 until present. I am NOT A COLLECTOR but I accumulate tube type
> > radios of all manufacturers because of what they were and what they still
> > are. Swan was pioneer in the transceiver field and did a great job from
> the
> > SW 175 and continued for many years, even after being bought out by Cubic
> > Communications.
> >
> > The TR3 is historic because it was R.L. Drake's FIRST transceiver. I HAVE
> > A TR3 THAT I BOUGHT REASONABLY OFF EBAY IN NON WORKING CONDITION AND VERY
> > DIRTY. Today it is a nice looking and working radio. Do I use it
> > everyday....NO!! WHY? I have the first model receiver that Drake built,
> the
> > Drake 1A serial number 518 of 1000 built. When built, it was arguably the
> > best receiver made in its' day( I also own a Collins 75A1, 75A2, and
> 75A4,
> > for comparison). l am not bragging, just pointing out my perspective. I
> own
> > a Drake 2A. Drake 2B, TR4 (that I use almost daily for net operation, R4,
> > T4X,R4B,R4C,and T4XC and a great Drake L4B amp. No, they are not the
> > $10,000.00+, Icom or the latest Kenwood, Orion or other solid state rig.
> >
> > The TR3 basically popularized the use of transceivers. There are many
> hams
> > today who may not be able to operate separates. Other companies had
> gotten
> > into the transceiver production, but not as affordable and basic as the
> TR3.
> >
> > My suggestion is that if you expect an almost "owner inability" rig to
> > repair, digital readout with 3,000 memories, 65 push buttons, DON'T BUY
> the
> > TR3, BUT "SOME DAY' you might wish you could find one to buy.
> >
> > This is not intended to start a THREAD, it is just my opinion. If anyone
> > wants to attack my opinion, don't bother the reflector with it, feel free
> > to reply DIRECTLY to me.  73, John, K5PGW
> >
> >
> >
> >  <[email protected]>
> >  *To:* [email protected]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:12 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Drakelist] TR-3
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <[email protected]<
> [email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Being a relative newbie to Drake equipment, is there any particular areas
> > to consider with the TR3 other than the obvious and general operating
> > condition?
> > ?I don't recall anything negative in particular about this vintage radio.
> >
> >
> > For one, it's a terrible CW radio...if that matters to you.
> >
> > 73 de Lee
> > --
> > Lee Hiers, AA4GA
> > www.aa4ga.com
> >
> > Submit your totals to the unofficial QRP DXCC standings - go to *
> > http://www.aa4ga.com/p/qrp-dxcc.html* for more info!
> >
> >
> >
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