Incidentially and as you may wish, there is an old circuit that is simple and effective to add CW break in for a tr3. Did it 3 times and worked very well. I beleive it is an old article in CQ mag.
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Bill skidmore <sxc...@gmail.com> wrote: > The comment about the sideband filter in the TR 3 is not to be passed over > lightly. If you have a problem there, you are in deep trouble. I carefully > took the surrounding shield off my problem filter and repaired it, then put > it together again. I was lucky I didn't break something. > > All the other comments, concerning historic equipment, TR 3 as a poor CW > rig, etc, are spot on. > Buy it anyway! These things keep us from going brain dead using multi-band > CB equipment. > > 73, Bill, VE3AUI > On 2012-12-12 3:28 AM, <drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net> wrote: > >> Send Drakelist mailing list submissions to >> drakelist@zerobeat.net >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> drakelist-ow...@zerobeat.net >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Drakelist digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: TR-3 (Al Parker) >> 2. Re: TR-3 (Lee Hiers) >> 3. Re: TR-3 (John King) >> 4. Re: TR-3 (David Assaf III) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:17:35 -0500 >> From: Al Parker <anc...@ec.rr.com> >> To: lane denune <lanerda...@yahoo.com> >> Cc: "drakelist@zerobeat.net" <drakelist@zerobeat.net> >> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3 >> Message-ID: <50c786cf.60...@ec.rr.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Hi, >> The deal "killer" in the TR-3 is the SB filter. They often go >> bad on >> one sideband, still get some thru, but way low. Check output on 20m and >> on 15m, they should be close, and above 125 watts out. Actual value >> could be more (hopefully), but will depend upon alignment. Normally 15m >> output will be a little less than on 20m, but not more than say 20 watts >> less, if the final tubes are reasonably good. You should be able to >> load up to about the same plate current on both bands. >> Other than that possible problem, the TR-3 can be a good rig for >> SSB >> operation, usually at a good price, also. S-meter often seems stingy, >> just turn up the AF gain if needed, signals are there. Definitely check >> out the p.s. and replace the bias filter cap at least. >> 73, >> >> Al, W8UT >> www.boatanchors.org >> www.hammarlund.info >> >> "There is nothing -- absolutely nothing -- half so much >> worth doing as simply messing about in boats" >> Ratty, to Mole >> >> On 12/11/2012 12:09 AM, lane denune wrote: >> > Hi Guys ; Considering a fully functional TR-3 from the owner of 15yrs. >> > I've been invited to try it on the air at his shack before I take it. >> > Being a relative newbie to Drake equipment, is there any particular >> > areas to consider with the TR3 other than the obvious and general >> > operating condition? >> > I don't recall anything negative in particular about this vintage >> > radio. I will upgrade the power supply and finals..Anything come to >> mind? >> > Thanks 73 de n8aft. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Drakelist mailing list >> > Drakelist@zerobeat.net >> > http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:12:38 -0500 >> From: Lee Hiers <lee.hi...@gmail.com> >> To: drakelist@zerobeat.net >> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3 >> Message-ID: >> <CAEEr= >> 7nzbfs+eqfb4pgsgngmzow8jodkwph5dhyxcvfk8hx...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, >> <lanerda...@yahoo.com<drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net> >> > wrote: >> >> Being a relative newbie to Drake equipment, is there any particular areas >> > to consider with the TR3 other than the obvious and general operating >> > condition? >> > ?I don't recall anything negative in particular about this vintage >> radio. >> >> >> For one, it's a terrible CW radio...if that matters to you. >> >> 73 de Lee >> -- >> Lee Hiers, AA4GA >> www.aa4ga.com >> >> Submit your totals to the unofficial QRP DXCC standings - go to * >> http://www.aa4ga.com/p/qrp-dxcc.html* for more info! >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://mailman.zerobeat.net/pipermail/drakelist/attachments/20121211/5c1b2219/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 15:43:52 -0800 (PST) >> From: John King <k5...@yahoo.com> >> To: Lee Hiers <lee.hi...@gmail.com>, "drakelist@zerobeat.net" >> <drakelist@zerobeat.net> >> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3 >> Message-ID: >> <1355269432.77968.yahoomail...@web121303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Should you buy a TR3? I think the answer should be given after >> determining what he plans to do with it. One reason to purchase a Drake TR3 >> is the historic value to the hobby.I have been licensed for almost 54 years >> and have grown with the hobby from 6AG7/807 tube transmitter and >> Hallicrafters S40A receiver. They were wonderful for the purpose for which >> they were built and intended to been used. They are not my gear that I use >> regularly, but they bring back wonderful memories. I have one hundred of >> more radios from 1940 until present. I am NOT A COLLECTOR but I accumulate >> tube type radios of all manufacturers because of what they were and what >> they still are. Swan was pioneer in the transceiver field and did a great >> job from the SW 175 and continued for many years, even after being bought >> out by Cubic Communications. >> >> >> The TR3 is historic because it was R.L. Drake's FIRST transceiver. I HAVE >> A TR3 THAT I BOUGHT REASONABLY OFF EBAY IN NON WORKING CONDITION AND VERY >> DIRTY. Today it is a nice looking and working radio. Do I use it >> everyday....NO!! WHY? I have the first model receiver that Drake built, the >> Drake 1A serial number 518 of 1000 built. When built, it was arguably the >> best receiver made in its' day( I also own a Collins 75A1, 75A2, and 75A4, >> for comparison). l am not bragging, just pointing out my perspective. I own >> a Drake 2A. Drake 2B, TR4 (that I use almost daily for net operation, R4, >> T4X,R4B,R4C,and T4XC and a great Drake L4B amp. No, they are not the >> $10,000.00+, Icom or the latest Kenwood, Orion or other solid state rig. >> >> >> The TR3 basically popularized the use of transceivers. There are many >> hams today who may not be able to operate separates. Other companies had >> gotten into the transceiver production, but not as affordable and basic as >> the TR3. >> >> My suggestion is that if you expect an almost "owner inability" rig to >> repair, digital readout with 3,000 memories, 65 push buttons, DON'T BUY the >> TR3, BUT "SOME DAY' you might wish you could find one to buy.? >> >> This is not intended to start a THREAD, it is just my opinion. If anyone >> wants to attack my opinion, don't bother the reflector with it, feel free >> to reply DIRECTLY to me.? 73, John, K5PGW >> >> ? ? >> >> >> >> ?<lee.hi...@gmail.com> >> >> To: drakelist@zerobeat.net >> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3 >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <lanerda...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Being a relative newbie to Drake equipment, is there any particular areas >> to consider with the TR3 other than the obvious and general operating >> condition? >> >?I don't recall anything negative in particular about this vintage radio. >> >> For one, it's a terrible CW radio...if that matters to you. >> >> 73 de Lee >> -- >> Lee Hiers, AA4GA >> >> www.aa4ga.com >> >> >> Submit your totals to the unofficial QRP DXCC standings - go to? >> http://www.aa4ga.com/p/qrp-dxcc.html?for more info! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Drakelist mailing list >> Drakelist@zerobeat.net >> http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://mailman.zerobeat.net/pipermail/drakelist/attachments/20121211/992ebf9d/attachment-0001.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:26:48 -0600 >> From: David Assaf III <david.w...@gmail.com> >> To: John King <k5...@yahoo.com> >> Cc: Lee Hiers <lee.hi...@gmail.com>, "drakelist@zerobeat.net" >> <drakelist@zerobeat.net> >> Subject: Re: [Drakelist] TR-3 >> Message-ID: >> <CAKkniAo69TnBVBCO=UwJ27i=Tyjp6L6qYMzxm3dK2TSA5v= >> g...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Hear, Hear!. I agree with John. What we do with these old radios vary >> with the number owned and sold: endless. But for me, I enjoy the >> simplicity and the warmth that using a piece of history gives me. Have a >> few radios, the old tube ones are the favorite. >> I say go for it and fix it and clean it and learn to love it. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:43 PM, John King <k5...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> > Should you buy a TR3? I think the answer should be given after >> determining >> > what he plans to do with it. One reason to purchase a Drake TR3 is the >> > historic value to the hobby.I have been licensed for almost 54 years and >> > have grown with the hobby from 6AG7/807 tube transmitter and >> Hallicrafters >> > S40A receiver. They were wonderful for the purpose for which they were >> > built and intended to been used. They are not my gear that I use >> regularly, >> > but they bring back wonderful memories. I have one hundred of more >> radios >> > from 1940 until present. I am NOT A COLLECTOR but I accumulate tube type >> > radios of all manufacturers because of what they were and what they >> still >> > are. Swan was pioneer in the transceiver field and did a great job from >> the >> > SW 175 and continued for many years, even after being bought out by >> Cubic >> > Communications. >> > >> > The TR3 is historic because it was R.L. Drake's FIRST transceiver. I >> HAVE >> > A TR3 THAT I BOUGHT REASONABLY OFF EBAY IN NON WORKING CONDITION AND >> VERY >> > DIRTY. Today it is a nice looking and working radio. Do I use it >> > everyday....NO!! WHY? I have the first model receiver that Drake built, >> the >> > Drake 1A serial number 518 of 1000 built. When built, it was arguably >> the >> > best receiver made in its' day( I also own a Collins 75A1, 75A2, and >> 75A4, >> > for comparison). l am not bragging, just pointing out my perspective. I >> own >> > a Drake 2A. Drake 2B, TR4 (that I use almost daily for net operation, >> R4, >> > T4X,R4B,R4C,and T4XC and a great Drake L4B amp. No, they are not the >> > $10,000.00+, Icom or the latest Kenwood, Orion or other solid state rig. >> > >> > The TR3 basically popularized the use of transceivers. There are many >> hams >> > today who may not be able to operate separates. Other companies had >> gotten >> > into the transceiver production, but not as affordable and basic as the >> TR3. >> > >> > My suggestion is that if you expect an almost "owner inability" rig to >> > repair, digital readout with 3,000 memories, 65 push buttons, DON'T BUY >> the >> > TR3, BUT "SOME DAY' you might wish you could find one to buy. >> > >> > This is not intended to start a THREAD, it is just my opinion. If anyone >> > wants to attack my opinion, don't bother the reflector with it, feel >> free >> > to reply DIRECTLY to me. 73, John, K5PGW >> > >> > >> > >> > <lee.hi...@gmail.com> >> > *To:* drakelist@zerobeat.net >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:12 PM >> > *Subject:* Re: [Drakelist] TR-3 >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, <lanerda...@yahoo.com< >> drakelist-requ...@zerobeat.net> >> > > wrote: >> > >> > Being a relative newbie to Drake equipment, is there any particular >> areas >> > to consider with the TR3 other than the obvious and general operating >> > condition? >> > ?I don't recall anything negative in particular about this vintage >> radio. >> > >> > >> > For one, it's a terrible CW radio...if that matters to you. >> > >> > 73 de Lee >> > -- >> > Lee Hiers, AA4GA >> > www.aa4ga.com >> > >> > Submit your totals to the unofficial QRP DXCC standings - go to * >> > http://www.aa4ga.com/p/qrp-dxcc.html* for more info! >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Drakelist mailing list >> > Drakelist@zerobeat.net >> > http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Drakelist mailing list >> > Drakelist@zerobeat.net >> > http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> David Assaf, III >> W5XU >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://mailman.zerobeat.net/pipermail/drakelist/attachments/20121211/a953a92a/attachment.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Drakelist mailing list >> Drakelist@zerobeat.net >> http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist >> >> >> End of Drakelist Digest, Vol 54, Issue 10 >> ***************************************** >> > > _______________________________________________ > Drakelist mailing list > Drakelist@zerobeat.net > http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist > > -- David Assaf, III W5XU
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