Hi Jeremy, and all,

 I would like to just address one issue here, without taking up the
individual principles  at this time.   I will come back to the individual
principles later.

  Since its not clear what role ASD will have, (standards production, or
implementation, overseer?) some re-phrasing at this early point might help
focus whether the dream education standards program is a moral or ethical
one.  I feel by dropping the word "should" we can re-vision towards ethics
and towards being clear that these are "our" standards.  We can justify our
standards however we chose, (experience, body of evidence, tradition,
testimonial, moral, whatever) and then reference that this is what the
program will need to comply without the moral signification attached.

 Thus in general, I would shift the emphasis from "should" to "If you do
this, then this is what you get" atttitude.  


Various senarios loom for me that we are at this time leaving open:

1. ASD offers advice only to schools in the form of  ┐expected?  standards.
2. ASD offers  a credential or certificate, [to a group/organization/school
or individual] or some other kind of notice of compliance to standards.
  Soft version: If school agrees and signs some compliance document.
  Strong version: ASD has some kind of test or verification procedure.
3. ASD offers some other standardization or judicial functions and services.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 I have no deep investment in my *particular* wording, but want to give the
gist of the emphasis shift which I do feel *is* important.


RE#1
as stated: 
>>>>>>>>>>
(1) Any program training people to work with dreams should have a clearly 
stated ethical component. We recommend the "Statement of Ethics for Dream 
Work" adopted by the ASD as a foundation for such ethical components of dream 
work training.........
<<<<<<<<<<<<


How about
 (1) Programs training people to work with dreams will need to have a clearly 
stated ethical component for ASD standard compliance. ..."

Rationale stated maybe later or somewhere else: Ethical disclosure offers
thus and such benefits to the individual/group (which we can verify or not
with research and experience and testimonials) and therefore complies with
the ASD standards  in the following ways....


 RE # 2   
 Restated here as:
<<<<<<<<<<<<
(2) Any program training people to work with dreams should emphasize the 
multiple layers of meaning that are possible in every dream, and expose 
trainees to a variety of techniques and methods of exploration. Programs 
which offer to train people to work with dreams professionally, (i.e. 
responsibly, for-pay) must be free to emphasize one particular technique 
above others, but in order to achieve minimum standards of adequate 
professional training, these programs must also expose their trainees to a 
representative variety of different techniques and theoretical models.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


"Any program training people to work with dreams should emphasize..."

  I would recommend dropping the "should" and replacing it with something
more like "expected" :

"Training programs are expected to  emphasize..."

Rationale stated maybe later or somewhere else: Teaching people who work
with dreams a polyseminal approach offers thus and such benefits to the
individual/group  (which we can verify or not with research and experience
and testimonials) and therefore complies with the ASD standards  in the
following ways....

RE: #3
as stated:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

(3) Any program training people to work with dreams should include a 
significant experience of adequately supervised, "hands-on", face-to-face 
dream work, leading and facilitating work with dreams, both with groups and 
individuals. (As electronic communications media become increasing important 
in our post-modern lives, this "hands-on" component may also be extended to 
include telephone and computer connected work with dreams, but traditional, 
face-to-face work must also be a significant element of the program. If the 
program does include training in working with dreams using electronic media, 
this work must also be supervised by instructors who themselves have adequate 
experience working with dreams using these media.) There should be written 
evaluations of the performance of trainees in these supervised situations. 
The criteria upon which these evaluations are based must be clearly stated, 
and applied equally.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

 How about re-phrasing: to "will need to"
(3) Any program training people to work with dreams will need to include a 
significant experience of adequately supervised, "hands-on", face-to-face 
dream work, leading and facilitating work with dreams, both with groups and 
individuals.


Rationale stated maybe later or somewhere else: Providing "hands-on",
face-to-face  dream work, leading and facilitating work with dreams, both
with groups and 
individuals offers thus and such benefits to the individual/group  (which
we can verify or not with research and experience and testimonials) and
therefore complies with the ASD standards  in the following ways....


RE #4
as stated:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
(4) Any program training people to work with dreams should offer an overview 
of the history of dream work as a world-wide activity. Although programs may 
choose to emphasize one aspect of this tradition, such as the European, 
medical/psychiatric, tradition of dream exploration, they should also offer 
at least an over-view of the many other strands of aboriginal and 
non-European work with dreams. This should include, but not be limited to 
exposure to those traditions which grant primacy to the dream as a means of 
communion with the realms of spirit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>

re-phrase

(4) Any program training people to work with dreams will need to offer an
overview 
of the history of dream work as a world-wide activity. Although programs may 
choose to emphasize one aspect of this tradition, such as the European, 
medical/psychiatric, tradition of dream exploration, they need to offer 
at least an over-view of the many other strands of aboriginal and 
non-European work with dreams. This should include, but not be limited to 
exposure to those traditions which grant primacy to the dream as a means of 
communion with the realms of spirit.


Rationale stated maybe later or somewhere else: Teaching people who work
with dreams the history of dreamwork offers thus and such benefits to the
individual/group  (which we can verify or not with research and experience
and testimonials) and therefore complies with the ASD standards  in the
following ways....


RE: #5
as stated:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
(5) At the outset, any program training people to work with dreams should 
have clearly stated goals and clearly stated means of evaluating whether or 
not those goals have been adequately achieved by a trainee. Evaluation of 
trainees regarding their performance and their achievement of training goals 
should be equally applied. 
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Restated. 

(5) At the outset, any program training people to work with dreams will
need to have clearly stated goals and clearly stated means of evaluating
whether or 
not those goals have been adequately achieved by a trainee. Evaluation of 
trainees regarding their performance and their achievement of training goals 
will need to be equally applied. 

Rationale stated maybe later or somewhere else: By having clearly stated
goals and clearly stated means of evaluating whether or not those goals
have been adequately achieved by a trainee offers thus and such benefits to
the individual/group  (which we can verify or not with research and
experience and testimonials) and therefore complies with the ASD standards
in the following ways....

RE#6
as stated:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
(6) Although dream work training for specialists, (medical practitioners, 
therapists, social workers, etc.), will require further training beyond these 
five basic areas, even specialized education and training in working with 
dreams should conform to the principles stated here."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

re-framed:

(6) Although dream work training for specialists, (medical practitioners, 
therapists, social workers, etc.), will require further training beyond these 
five basic areas, even specialized education and training in working with 
dreams will need to conform to the principles stated here for ASD standards
compliance."

Rationale stated maybe later or somewhere else: By recognizing these
priniciples in both general and specialized dreamwork programs, a minimal
standard for what we feel constitutes "adequate" dreamwork education can be
established and offers thus and such benefits to the individual/group
(which we can verify or not with research and experience and testimonials)
and therefore complies with the ASD standards  in the following ways....

This final re-vision is from an addition note and overlaps the numbering
system of the first set of principles.  Tue, 27 Jul 1999 

"(3) Any program training people to work with dreams should have a 
fundamental component addressing the universal human process of unconscious 
"projection". This tranining component should include material relating to 
projection both as a major element in the creation of the manifest content of 
the dream itself, as well as a primary factor in the subsequent exploration 
and work with any dream or dream series."

 This might be re-framed as 

Any program training people to work with dreams will need to have a 
fundamental component addressing the universal human process of unconscious 
"projection". This tranining component will need to include material
relating to 
projection both as a major element in the creation of the manifest content of 
the dream itself, as well as a primary factor in the subsequent exploration 
and work with any dream or dream series."


Rationale stated maybe later or somewhere else: Programs which inlclude a
tranining component on material relating to projection both as a major
element in the creation of the manifest content of the dream itself, as
well as a primary factor in the subsequent exploration and work with any
dream or dream series, will benefit to the individual/group (which we can
verify or not with research and experience and testimonials) and therefore
complies with the ASD standards  in the following ways....

++ Richard
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