On 10/19/26 14:44, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 09:14:07AM +0200, Karl Mehltretter wrote:
>> UVC and vivid access imported DMA-BUFs with the CPU without cache
>> synchronization. On a Pi 400, captured data remained in the CPU cache
>> while physical RAM was stale.
>>
>> Add an opt-in queue flag to bracket CPU access from buf_prepare() through
>> buf_finish(). The allocator cannot imply CPU use because some vb2-vmalloc
>> drivers pass buffers to hardware. Patch 1 balances finish operations in
>> VIDIOC_REMOVE_BUFS so removing prepared buffers closes this interval.
> 
> This seems completely wrong.

It looks a bit questionable from 1000 miles above, but I might be wrong.

Let me iterate the rules here:

Accessing imported DMA-buf with the CPU from userspace should only be possible 
by using the dma_buf_mmap() interface and that includes the DMA_BUF_IOCTL_SYNC 
IOCTL to flush buffers dirtied by the CPU. If that is not done this way then 
that would be a *major* security issue, but I guess that this isn't the issue 
here.

What the drivers do more likely is that they use the vmap interface to access 
the DMA-buf with the CPU inside the kernel. Correct?

In this case dma_buf_begin_cpu_access() and dma_buf_end_cpu_access() should be 
called to properly frame that access.

That seems to be added in patch #2, but I absolutely can't judge if that is 
correct or not since at the same time you speak about userptr access and the 
code really looks a bit like spaghetti. 

Regards,
Christian.

> 
>> This follows the per-queue flag proposed here:
>> https://lists.openwall.net/linux-kernel/2024/06/20/236
>>
>> Based on Linux 7.3. Tests cover the same code on these earlier bases:
>>
>> - Pi 400, 7.3-rc4, all four patches: eight 640x480 YUYV frames per run,
>>   imported CMA DMA-BUFs with a DRM device mapping:
>>
>>   Path                          Runs   Stale frames
>>   UVC, vb2-vmalloc               12        0/96
>>   vivid, vb2-vmalloc             12        0/96
>>   vivid, vb2-dma-contig          12        0/96
>>
>>   All six lifecycle cases passed with both vivid allocators. Read-only
>>   output USERPTR passed. The test added no warnings or failed CPU-access
>>   callbacks. A control without the DRM mapping found 4/16 stale frames.
>>
>> - SAM9X75 (ARMv5), 6.18 backport of all four patches: the baseline
>>   PREPARE_BUF/REMOVE_BUFS imbalance was fixed. USERPTR and six lifecycle
>>   cases passed. All 128 vivid and 96 UVC frames matched RAM, with 100/100
>>   begin/end calls. The baseline was already coherent.
>>
>> - BeagleV Ahead (RISC-V), 7.3-rc7, patches 1, 2 and 4: read-only USERPTR,
>>   six traced lifecycle cases and 60 repeats passed with balanced callbacks
>>   and no kernel diagnostics. A vendor 5.10 backport of patches 2 and 3
>>   captured 96 UVC frames without stale data, with 100/100 begin/end calls.
>>   Its baseline was already coherent.
>>
>> Karl Mehltretter (4):
>>   media: videobuf2: finish prepared buffers in VIDIOC_REMOVE_BUFS
>>   media: videobuf2: add opt-in DMA-BUF CPU access
>>   media: uvcvideo: synchronize imported DMA-BUFs for CPU access
>>   media: vivid: synchronize imported DMA-BUFs for CPU access
>>
>>  .../media/common/videobuf2/videobuf2-core.c   | 96 ++++++++++++++++++-
>>  .../common/videobuf2/videobuf2-dma-contig.c   |  5 +-
>>  .../media/common/videobuf2/videobuf2-dma-sg.c |  5 +-
>>  .../common/videobuf2/videobuf2-vmalloc.c      |  5 +-
>>  drivers/media/test-drivers/vivid/vivid-core.c |  1 +
>>  drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvc_queue.c             |  1 +
>>  include/media/videobuf2-core.h                | 12 ++-
>>  7 files changed, 116 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
>>
>>
>> base-commit: c03c1a14507dfaf8b856c2608f9ac216021fc222
> 

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