On Sunday 17 June 2001 09:58, you wrote:
> Hello. Once again I try to get any answer about Mach64 DRI development.
> Is there any work in progress? Is the development for the Mach64 dead?
>
> It's really sad, but I've been waiting for one year and no progress have
> been made or I haven't been told about it. Has anybody merged the main
> trunk into the mach64 branch?
>
> I know that the Mach64 is no state-of-art, but a lot of laptops are still
> wearing one of these cards.
>
> Is there any way to help in the development of this driver? I've never
> coded a driver and the huge XFree trunk afraids me, but, anyway, I should
> try to help if somebody could help me with the first steps: Where to find
> information about the chip? Where to find some templates or architectural
> information about DRI,...
>
> I think the DRI development group is making a good work. It's a pitty I
> can't see the results in my old graphic card.
>
> Best regards.
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Manuel,
        I know the feeling.  There are quite a few laptops that still use Mach64 
chips.  And for a laptop which doesn't need amazing high-end graphics, it 
works very nice.  As well consider the fact that it is not common to upgrade 
a video card in a laptop, which kind of implies that if you want the latest 
and greatest in accelerated gaming you would more commonly buy a new laptop 
every six months or so.  From what I can tell there has not been any 
progress.  I have the trunk and the mach64 branch both checked out.  I have 
been attempting to learn as much as I can from ground up so that I can 
eventually help out in some way.  In fact I had planned to merge the trunk 
into my copy of the mach64 branch this weekend but never got the time.  I 
have many other things going on and only get a chance to tinker with things 
in my spare time.
        Agreed, having chip specs would be very nice.  But from what I can tell ati 
requires you to register with them as a company and this is just me doing 
this for fun, there is no company involved and no profit involved.  Does 
anyone else know how to get specs from ATI without a hastle?  Am I wrong in 
my preception of how to get the specs?
        There are some real good documentation pointers off the DRI website, that 
give the general workings of the architecture and what is going on.  In 
theory with all of that and with the actual code, it should not be too 
difficult to learn.  That is what I am doing.  Starting from the bottom, 
reading all the documentation, and checking out the code to fill in the 
blanks of how things are working.  But like I said, progress has been slow.  
Right now, I am mostly just reading and trying to learn.  And I am doing this 
is spare time between other things.
        I can definitly understand why development isn't funded for Mach64; but I am 
amazed that someone hasn't picked this code up yet and attempted to hack 
something together that works decently well.  I suppose the learning curve 
and lack of Mach64 documentation are large deterents.
        Hopefully eventually Mach64 will be accelerated.  Let's just hope the chip 
isn't truly obsolete before then :)

Sincerely,
Jeremy Bean

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