On Monday 11 September 2006 18:52, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On 9/12/06, Patrick McFarland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Monday 11 September 2006 18:06, Alex Deucher wrote:
> > > When was the last time you tried the driver?  with xorg 7.1, mesa 6.5
> > > and the latest radeon ddx updates, the driver is more stable than ever
> > > for me.
> >
> > About a month ago I tried using newest xorg, mesa, dri, and drm from
> > svn/git.
> > It still continued not to work.
>
> Maybe fill a bug with xorg.log (i remember you filled a bug or raised the
> issue
> on this list but i can get my hand on this right now) and more information
> on
> your configuration. I would have though that fix for 9800 would help for
> other 9xxx.

I think I did file a bug, but the xorg.log was virtually empty. There are no 
errors recorded, and I have to kill -9 X over ssh to get anywhere. X 
literally just froze in place and stopped.

I also did raise it on this list, but it went nowhere.

> Meanwhile i think fsf can help only by trying to work with hardware vendor.
> I tried one time to get in touch with ATI people, so far i never get any
> answer.
> Maybe try getting in touch with AMD people, i think they got clearance for
> their merge with ATI and now only are waiting for ATI shareholder.

I really hope AMD just releases the damn specifications.

> I also think we lack people to work on that, or at least people working on
> that
> lack time,  i would like to contribute more but my time is already almost
> fullfill
> by my work.

It isn't quite the lacking people problem, its the fact that a) driver hacking 
isn't easy for the average hacker, b) everyone is just saying fuck ATI and 
switching to nvidia.

I may even switch to nvidia if this keeps up. fglrx sucks, ATI has no interest 
in helping DRI, and DRI just doesn't have the man power to do stuff quickly.

Maybe the FSF should start funding driver development by hiring programmers 
and buying hardware? 

Hell, I'll even trade any of you R300 developers my card for a DRI-functioning 
Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb /w VGA+DVI (or better), as long as the driver is fixed 
to work with the card I'm trading you.

> best,
> Jerome Glisse

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