On Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:04 am Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 10:42 -0800, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:33 pm Michel Dänzer wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:27 -0800, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > > > Recall our last discussion where I outlined the cases we'd have to
> > > > deal with in the modeset ioctl if we didn't use get/put to just keep
> > > > interrupts on around the calls:
> > >
> > > But we are intending to keep them on around the calls. So the problem
> > > is that you are disabling the IRQ in between? Maybe a solution could be
> > > not to mess with the counter when disabling/enabling the IRQ. It needs
> > > to be guarded by the modeset ioctl anyway, so shouldn't that work?
> >
> > The current problem isn't a disable between modeset ioctls, it's a
> > disable followed by a counter reset of any kind (modeset ioctls or not),
> > since the "last" count we track is just done in the disable function, not
> > in the modeset ioctl.  Doing in in the modeset ioctl instead may be
> > possible, but as I said there are lots of cases to deal with.
>
> Isn't the actual problem that drm_irq_uninstall() updates last_vblank?
> If it didn't (and the modeset ioctl is properly called around the
> disabling and re-enabling of the IRQ), wouldn't it just work?

No, this happens w/o an uninstall, it's just due to wraparound being added 
between the disable timer & the next drm_vblank_get.

> > But apps can't assume that; frames *will* be lost when the monitor goes
> > off, for as long as the monitor is off.  So if an app isn't actively
> > using the framecount for something it can't count on a given value. 
> > Right?
>
> Again, I disagree with the notion that because something may not work
> under some (in this case exceptional) circumstances, we shouldn't try to
> make it work whenever possible.

So DPMS is exceptional?  I think it's normal.

> You asked for examples; well, it's pretty easy to come up with examples
> which work according to the spec but not with your proposal. E.g.
> consider an app which calls glXGetSyncValuesOML every n seconds. If n is
> larger than the number of seconds we wait before disabling vblank
> interrupts, the MSC value doesn't increase at the rate returned by
> glXGetMscRateOML.

Yes, that might fail.  It might also behave strangely if the driver decides to 
reduce the refresh rate on the fly too.

> I'd be interested in Ian Romanick's opinion on this.

Yeah, me too.  Ian?

-- 
Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center

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