>Roy Fielding also sees the same problems with the ARC process as I do.
He sees a problem, but not the same problem.
But I also think that Roy is wrong; the ARC has been given a role in the
OpenSolaris development process which was created as a collaborative
effort between Sun and the community. As such, the ARC does plays an
important role in the design review of OpenSolaris as well as Solaris.
>It have been Sun people who claimed that the first integration wins.
>Now if the community integrates things, it seems that Sun Solaris ign=
>ores this and creates incompatibility.
Please define "community integration".
As "to integrate" means something like "to be made a part of", it seems
that nothing happening outside the OpenSolaris community could be seen
as a integrated.
>Note that the ARC is a _Sun_ vehicle but not an OpenSolaris one.
That is only partially true. Much of the mechanisms defined in the
development process require a long transition from a "Sun only" to
a "OpenSolaris" mechanism. It was understood that clearly very few people
outside Sun would be senior enough to take part in the ARC initially; but
becoming an Intern is certainly possible.
>We need a new and open method for OpenSolaris that is accepted by the
>community and that integrates the community with equal rights.
The ARC is accepted by the community as part of the development process
defined by the community two years ago.
>Let me give an example:
>
>I am sure that the ZFS team is able to derail a ARC fast track if they
>...
This is not an example, Jörg, this is a *hypothetical* example for which
you have no proof that it will actually happen.
We know that there have been ARC decisions with which you personally
disagree. That does not mean that the decisions were wrong or against the
community.
The two that come to mind are:
"compare" (yours vs ImageMagick). (I see no conflict as even
Blastwave which you cite as precedent somehow doesn't ship /bin/compare
and there was no prior "*Solaris*" integration anywhere that I can find
but a lot of OSes where /bin/compare is ImageMagick's)
"tar" vs "star" -/ option. Again I fail to see a conflict because
the "/" option to star makes it POSIX compliance and as such the
option would be required to be on by default in "Sun tar/standard
complaint tar mode")
I've not yet seen anyone voicing an opinion supporting yours. And I
believe that more community input would not have changed the outcome.
Casper
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