Eric Bergen wrote:
I think most of the focus on cloud computing is based around raw
processing power. They forget that all that data needs to be stored
somewhere at some point. I think the challenge for drizzle workloads
will be finding the correct balance of cpu, memory, i/o latency and
power consumption. Most of these cloud computing discussions forget
all about i/o latency. We can't.

May I suggest that it's time to re-examine your assumptions. From the beginning of time (i.e. ~1970), database systems were things that ran on single computers, sitting between the disk and the database client. Since then processors have increased over a thousandfold in power, memory has gone from a megabyte or two to 8 gigabytes, LANs to a gigabit, and disks almost almost four times faster than they used to be.

Think network centric. Sun didn't get much right, but "the network is the computer" was dead-on. The cost to fetch something from another system is a small fraction of the cost to get something from disk. If you're concerned about latency -- and you should be -- you want to pick something off the network, not off a disk.

The design center should be an elastic set of expendable computers, not a single computer. It is also cheaper to add another computer than to make an existing one faster (as if that were even possible without taking it down and replacing it). This requires a change in thinking and a corresponding change in architectures.

I know the inherited code base needs vast amounts of work to be maintainable, but wouldn't it make a lot of sense to think about alternative architectures while that process continues? For example, would Oracle RAC is a suitable model? If so, what might drizzle be doing differently now to accommodate that later? What are the requirements, goals, trade-offs, and non-goals?

Justing think about the number of network transfers you can while waiting for the silly disk to turn and the arm to move should stimulate the imagination...

(No, SSDs are the answer.  They raise, but don't eliminate, the bar.)



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Jim Starkey
President, NimbusDB, Inc.
978 526-1376


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