Hi!
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:05 PM, Arjen Lentz wrote:
On 18/03/2009, at 7:24 AM, Kay Röpke wrote:
On Mar 17, 2009, at 10:07 PM, Arjen Lentz wrote:
I look forward to a time when MySQL will use OSS development once
again. It is not an economic risk, it's a massive business asset
to do so.
Exactly who is the main sponsor of work on drizzle?
I don't think that's particularly relevant.
It's certainly the case that a number of Sun people are majorly or
fulltime involved with Drizzle.
However, how is this related to the open development of MySQL?
Drizzle is not MySQL.
Or is Drizzle an open development of MySQL? Nah...
Given the amount of internal and external MySQL developers on this
list and the fact that drizzle is a MySQL fork (moving away from the
codebase rather rapidly but retaining a whole lot of it, still, like
storage engines, optimizer, and other parts i'm too tired to remember)
I maintain it is very relevant.
Is it enough? No. Is it going into the right direction? Yes, I'd say so.
As I wrote, I couldn't resist to troll, so don't take it as an
absolute :)
And btw, everyone active on this list (and not only this one, mind
you) believes in OSS so there's no need to go all "you guys do it
wrong" on us, just because we happen to work for this company.
I'm not getting a paycheck to contribute to this project, but yet
I'm here, am I not? (same is true for Mark)
Your presence here is most appreciated. And I would say that part of
your paycheck IS to be involved in various related projects.
And I also believe that if anyone working for whatever company
brings up something that is debatable (such as the NRE logic Mark
brought up), then I think it's valid to expect comments on that and
see it discussed. That is not an attack on the person, but a
discussion on the topic that was raised.
I know, all I meant to say is that even though the MySQL development
process for the server is lacking at the moment, and there are people
trying to fix it and not everything at MySQL is working like the server.
We are willing to discuss anything brought up as I think both Mark and
I have shown. I've retracted factually wrong statements I made and
Mark has restated his argument and backed it up. Good discussion, I'd
say.
With regard to "you guys"... when I still worked at MySQL, it was
"us guys" getting it wrong in some ways. It was us, and I was part
of it.
My opinion has not changed, just the position from which I work. I
am now also in a position where I can actively influence how I do
work myself, i.e. putting my money (and activities) where my mouth is.
*nod*
As am I for the projects I'm responsible to work on. Although an open
development process is _also_ a function of contributors and their
activity. Not exclusively but it is a factor, just saying.
cheers,
-k
P.S.: now i managed to go completely off-topic. sorry about that. we
should probably take it off-list now.
--
Kay Roepke
Software Engineer, MySQL Enterprise Tools
Sun Microsystems GmbH Sonnenallee 1, DE-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten
Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer
Vorsitz d. Aufs.rat.: Martin Haering HRB MUC 161028
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