Hi all,

   I just want to make a longer note to the discussion. We have jumped into 
trouble with journal, issue, volume, pagination and things like these in 
our DML-CZ (http://dml.cz/) project. For qualified DC, we have followed 
the basic terms (contributor, description, ...) and set up several new 
qualifiers (because it's not possible to live only with the ones defined) 
- I have always tried to let the basic terms to have their general 
meanings, so "description" is used a lot:

description.volume
description.issue
etc. etc.

   However, the trouble is not the "internal" qualified DC. The real 
troubles have started with the EuDML (http://www.eudml.eu/) when we have 
needed to share our metadata via OAI-PMH and especially via nonqualified 
DC. Then "descrition.volume = 10" is just "description = 10" (or 
<dc:description>10</dc:description> to be precise). The "dirty" solution 
we have choosen (according to or better inspired by 
http://projecteuclid.org/documents/metadata/dml_dc/) uses qualifiers as 
prefixes:

<dc:description>volume:10</dc:description>
<dc:identifier>isbn:0268034869</dc:identifier>

Together with defined rules (what prefix means what) it is useful I think. 
And it is correct DC. You can check out our OAI (oai.dml.cz) for 
inspiration.

Vlastik

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On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Platt, Alice wrote:

> The librarian's point of view:
>
> I agree with Mark that it's not a great idea to make up non-standard terms.
>
> The issue here lies not with DSpace, but with the Dublin Core schema. The 
> reason Dublin Core is silent about pagination is because of a principle 
> behind the schema, which states "In general Dublin Core metadata describes 
> one manifestation or version of a resource, rather than assuming that 
> manifestations stand in for one another" (Diane Hillmann, Using Dublin Core, 
> http://dublincore.org/documents/usageguide/). Since Dublin Core was strictly 
> designed to describe digital resources, and digital resources inherently do 
> not have pages, Dublin Core ignores the concept of pagination. It's a concept 
> left over from print media.
>
> With all that said, I do understand the frustration. But ultimately, it's 
> best to follow guidelines and best practices, to ensure interoperability and 
> the longevity of your metadata. If pagination is a priority, it may indeed be 
> best to use MODS, which is more closely related to describing print media and 
> includes more of the traditional types of cataloging fields.
>
> Alice Platt
> Digital Initiatives Librarian
> Shapiro Library
> Southern New Hampshire University
> 2500 North River Rd
> Manchester, NH 03106
> USA
> 603-668-2211 x 2156
>
> Visit the SNHU Academic Archive at http://academicarchive.snhu.edu
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>
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:23:27 -0400
>
> From: "Mark H. Wood" <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: Re: [Dspace-general] Metadata, enumeration & pagination
>
> To: [email protected]
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> IMHO people shouldn't be making up nonstandard terms in the "dc" namespace.
>
>
>
> We need help from librarians here: isn't there *some* metadata standard for 
> representing articles in dead-tree periodicals?  If not, then let's stir 
> people up, get one made and promote it.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer   [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>
> Balance your desire for bells and whistles with the reality that only a 
> little more than 2 percent of world population has broadband.
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:13:27 +0800
>
> From: "David Palmer" <[email protected]>
>
> Subject: [Dspace-general] Metadata, enumeration & pagination
>
> To: <[email protected]>
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> Cc: [email protected],     'Repositories discussion list'
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> Japan's National Institute of Informatics (NII) has made guidelines for 
> metadata usage in IRs; "junii2 Guidelines",
>
>      http://www.nii.ac.jp/irp/archive/system/pdf/junii2guide_ver1.0.pdf
>
>
>
> They give these tags,
>
> - dc.identifier.volume
>
> - dc.identifier.issue
>
> - dc.identifier.spage
>
> - dc.identifier.epage
>
>
>
> I can see several IRs in Japan using these codes.  An example,
>
>
>
> http://ir.lib.shizuoka.ac.jp/handle/10297/2183?mode=full&submit_simple=Show+
>
> full+item+record
>
>
>
> I assume they use (created?) these because Dublin Core is silent on the 
> issue.  We have the same problem in Hong Kong.  What to do for tags to show 
> enumeration & pagination?  Now it is hopelessly all jumbled into 
> dc.identifier.citation.
>
>
>
> Do IRs outside Japan use these same tags?  If not, what tags are used to show 
> enumeration & pagination?  Is this issue being addressed in DSpace 1.6 or 
> 1.7?  Will all of us solve this problem by ourselves individually and thus 
> create tags, variously weird & wonderful?  Let a thousand flowers bloom?
>
>
>
> David Palmer
>
> Scholarly Communications Team Leader
>
> The University of Hong Kong Libraries
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