Hi Robin,

When it comes to Linux/Unix Sun's provided installation of Java has  
always failed to meet the LSB standard.  What vendors provide is  
better integration of java into the existing platform. This is the  
direction Java is going in by becoming Open Source, it allows the  
vendors to better deliver Java as a serious and well integrated tool  
under the GNU/Lunix business model (not dissimilar to to Apache  
httpd, the GNU software stack, etc. You give Sun way to much credit,  
they've totally lagged on supporting Java on Linux.  Linux vendors no  
much better how to package a Java distro for their platform than Sun  
ever has.

http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/LsbJava

Linux and its available software stack matures by adoption, what is  
popular but not standard evolves to become vendor supported and  
maintained in a vendor stack, vendors drive it to become more  
standardized, I speculate this has happened with GNU tools, Apache  
HTTPD, PERL, etc. A vendor providing a distro just means more eyes  
have reviewed the configuration and more issues have been resolved  
and more stability has been introduced before it gets on my server.

Great feedback.

Cheers,
Mark

On Feb 8, 2007, at 11:05 AM, robin taylor wrote:

> My tuppence worth -
>
> With regards to whether you should go with the versions of software  
> packaged
> with the OS or install your own, I reckon it depends on whether you  
> believe
> the guys at RedHat (or any other OS supplier) are making considered
> decisions with respect to the versions of software they bundle with  
> the OS,
> or whether you think their main concern is the OS, and the additional
> software is an afterthought. I don't mean to do them a disservice  
> but I have
> always felt more comfortable installing the software myself, that  
> way I know
> what has gone on.
>
> Cheers, Robin.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim  
> Donohue
> Sent: 08 February 2007 15:47
> To: Mark Diggory
> Cc: [email protected]; Steve Thomas
> Subject: Re: [Dspace-tech] OS for DSpace
>
> Mark (and Steve),
>
> Mark Diggory wrote:
>> Tim,
>>
>> Nobody has yet to actually answer the deeper question about RHEL...
>> How about you guys? Are you running DSpace on Java/Tomcat provided by
>> RHEL support channels/updates or are you running on a "rolled your  
>> own"
>> installation of java/tomcat? Or alternatively, are you using  
>> JPackage?
>
> We've gone the "rolled your own" approach for Java/Tomcat.  So, we
> downloaded Java/Tomcat from the usual Sun/Apache sites and  
> installed both in
> that manner.
>
> When I did this install, I had trouble getting the latest versions of
> Java/Tomcat through the RHEL support channels.  So, I scrapped that  
> idea
> right off the bat, and just downloaded the latest & greatest from  
> Sun and
> Apache.
>
> However, we are using the Apache web server through RHEL support  
> channels
> (since that was up to date).  And we have mod_jk compiled from  
> source (my
> notes on wiki: http://wiki.dspace.org/index.php/ModJk), so that we  
> can use
> Apache + Tomcat to serve up DSpace.
>
> Feel free to contact me for more detailed info.  I'd be glad to share
> installation notes to anyone interested.
>
> - Tim
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> ========================================
> Tim Donohue
> Research Programmer, Illinois Digital Environment for Access to  
> Learning and
> Scholarship (IDEALS)
> 135 Grainger Engineering Library
> University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> phone: (217) 333-4648
> fax:   (217) 244-7764
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Massachusetts Institute of Technology



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